Who will the next permanent Chelsea manager be?

[chara]

8 minutes ago, kev61 said:

Wouldn't it be wonderful if Frank turned things around and we won all our remaining games with Mount man of the match in most of them.

 

Yeah...oh Kev You me and Tinkerbell !... I  wish we were not so far apart as I think we would have a great time out on the gentle P ! (goes for some others as well!)

[kev61]

40 minutes ago, kev61 said:

Just read a synopsis on Nagelsmann.I don't understand why some people are so disappointed.He seems like a whippersnapper that hasn't achieved an awful lot.

Potential yes, but in no way a top manager.

The one thing I did like reading about Nagelsmann is he likes to get possession back as soon as possible rather than regroup.

It is exactly one of the many things we are doing wrong imo.

[Michael Tucker]

14 minutes ago, kev61 said:

Wouldn't it be wonderful if Frank turned things around and we won all our remaining games with Mount man of the match in most of them.

 

Speaking of miracles!

[kev61]

1 minute ago, Michael Tucker said:

Speaking of miracles!

"If you don't have a dream"....🙂

[kev61]

42 minutes ago, chara said:

Yeah...oh Kev You me and Tinkerbell !... I  wish we were not so far apart as I think we would have a great time out on the gentle P ! (goes for some others as well!)

Unless you are prepared to listen to absolute gibberish  come last orders I agree with you.

[chara]

21 minutes ago, kev61 said:

Unless you are prepared to listen to absolute gibberish  come last orders I agree with you.

Works both ways Kev!..my gibber gabber qualifications are top grade!

[Original 21]

1 hour ago, chara said:

@Original 21

Share your concerns but maybe like most of us you are nbeing dragged down by the present situation.

First off...going for the "manager you want" without looking at alternatives got Chelsea GP...how did that work out?

The selection process now is being handled by a specialist group...time will tell how specialist and knowledgeable they are but listening to the philosophy and forward looking views of a candidate surely is better than taking it as read that a candidate is suitable and fits in with long term strategy?

Roman's "strength was if there was a mistake at the helm he moved them on regardless of financial penalty...an investment unit has to more prudent..another GP fiasco has to be avoided.

 

 

Fair enough. I always favoured Enrique but thought the Board were really only interested in Nagelsmann. Now it turns out both are no longer under consideration but Pochettinho and Kompany are in the final two. How did that happen?

I’m curious how we got here. Did Enrique and Nagelsmann both walk away because they felt insulted by the process? Did they not fit the “profile” we’re after? Just what is that profile anyway?  Are they really not what we’re after, but Kompany is? I’m sorry but after the debacle of underwhelming signings and the appointment of Potter, I’ve lost confidence in the Board and this managerial beauty contest isn’t helping. 

[kev61]

4 minutes ago, chara said:

Works both ways Kev!..my gibber gabber qualifications are top grade!

Ernest Hemingway's books were written when he was sozzled.That's my excuse!.

[chara]

1 minute ago, Original 21 said:

Fair enough. I always favoured Enrique but thought the Board were really only interested in Nagelsmann. Now it turns out both are no longer under consideration but Pochettinho and Kompany are in the final two. How did that happen?

I’m curious how we got here. Did Enrique and Nagelsmann both walk away because they felt insulted by the process? Did they not fit the “profile” we’re after? Just what is that profile anyway?  Are they really not what we’re after, but Kompany is? I’m sorry but after the debacle of underwhelming signings and the appointment of Potter, I’ve lost confidence in the Board and this managerial beauty contest isn’t helping. 

That 's our problem looking in...we only get a Media version..as often guesswork I suspect...it suits the Media to make as much mischief and click bait as possible,

To say candidate X discussed things is not enough..or candidate Y was rejected ..they have to dramatise every often mmundane issue...to say candidate A was not offered enough or asked for too much is far to simple ....

I wasn't questioning your views as I'm sure you know...bad times for all of us.

[chara]

4 minutes ago, kev61 said:

Ernest Hemingway's books were written when he was sozzled.That's my excuse!.

Plus the legendary Borota appearance after inbibing of an alleged bottle of Scotch or such!

How does it go?..in vino veritas !

[kev61]

52 minutes ago, chara said:

 

How does it go?..in vino veritas !

In wine the truth.Not the truth in most instances but better than sober lies

[ROTG]

4 hours ago, Original 21 said:

Fair enough. I always favoured Enrique but thought the Board were really only interested in Nagelsmann. Now it turns out both are no longer under consideration but Pochettinho and Kompany are in the final two. How did that happen?

I’m curious how we got here. Did Enrique and Nagelsmann both walk away because they felt insulted by the process? Did they not fit the “profile” we’re after? Just what is that profile anyway?  Are they really not what we’re after, but Kompany is? I’m sorry but after the debacle of underwhelming signings and the appointment of Potter, I’ve lost confidence in the Board and this managerial beauty contest isn’t helping. 

I guess they both walked after bring informed by TB sporing group, they would be required to coach as part of the first team squad the toilet level players acquired in January and will have no input in any departures or accusistions in the summer.

Within 6 month the club has gone from a laughing stock, to a shambles of a club devoid of any forward planning with hight level management recruitments now trying to justify their positions. The only criterial for becoming the head coach at chelsea is to be a yes man to the TB sports department.

[ROTG]

Apart for a new coach - the bigger question is who are the backroom staff?

Barry gone, Team GP Gone, Team SFL gone in the summer no continuity from inside the club - Its a huge mess created by TB sports team, along with Neil Bath who is not pushing the likes of Andy Myers for a job with the first team

 

[Sleeping Dave]

On 20/04/2023 at 14:35, ROTG said:

If the club waits until 01-Jun, then it a case of the new coach culling the squad  by 30-jun without having a chance to assess the players 

These remaining games are a free hit  
 

You don’t need to spend time with the squad to know which players we need to get rid of. 

[xceleryx]

Personally I'm pleased we've missed, or moved on from, Enrique. Don't think he's the right fit whatsoever.

Also not overly disappointed by missing out on Naglesmann, as talented as he may be I do think there's a degree of baggage that comes along with him.

I've said before that I felt Poch provided the best overall fit in term of where we are right now. We need someone that's good with younger players, has built sides that have a bit of a bond and hostility about them. He's also got the added advantage of having managed in the Premier League before and playing some nice football in the process. While he may not go on to be the one that wins us things, we need to get back to that sort of level first. I couldn't care less about his Spurs history personally when we've welcomed rival players in the past. 

Kompany has impressed me and while I think he's an exciting upcoming manager, it may be a bit too big of a step up. Although, I do like how he handles himself.

De Zerbi would be interesting, whether we'd want to run the risk of going back to Brighton for a manager though remains to be seen. Always impressed me when he was at Sassuolo and the job he did there. 

My wildcard would still be Big Ange Postecoglou if we're really going explore our options, the man I wanted originally over Potter.

 

[Sleeping Dave]

15 hours ago, Bob Singleton said:

Are you James Prescott in disguise?

I was thinking the same there for a second…

[Sciatika]

6 hours ago, kev61 said:

Ernest Hemingway's books were written when he was sozzled.That's my excuse!.

When asked, he denied that.

[ROTG]

30 minutes ago, Sleeping Dave said:

You don’t need to spend time with the squad to know which players we need to get rid of. 

Let’s put it like this.  The January signing are not going to get you to the top four. 
Were any of those signing an upgrade on the squad before the the January window. ?

[Mark Kelly]

12 minutes ago, ROTG said:

Let’s put it like this.  The January signing are not going to get you to the top four. 
Were any of those signing an upgrade on the squad before the the January window. ?

I think Fofana and Koulibally were upgrades on no Rudiger and no Christensen. 

[ROTG]

33 minutes ago, Mark Kelly said:

I think Fofana and Koulibally were upgrades on no Rudiger and no Christensen. 

ridiger & Christensen delivered top for every season. The new two are delivering 11th so they are neither an upgrade or the same level. 

[xceleryx]

15 minutes ago, ROTG said:

ridiger & Christensen delivered top for every season. The new two are delivering 11th so they are neither an upgrade or the same level. 

You know full well that's not how it works. 

[paulw66]

11 hours ago, Holymoly said:

Pedigree?

Espanyol: Won nothing, win percentage 33%

Southampton: Won nothing, win percentage 38%

Spuds: Won nothing, win percentage 54%

PSG: Actually lost the league title in France which is some sort of achievement I guess.

We're already sufficiently "Spursy", we don't need the architect of that malaise at our club. We need to win, not be the plucky also ran.

Win percentages, especially with weaker sides don't tell the whole story.

Marco Silva's or Thomas Franks' win percentages this season are lower than say Ten Hag, but who has done a better job? 

10 hours ago, Original 21 said:

I think the Board have screwed up again. The “process” of interviewing several managers just shows you don’t have a clue who you want and just makes the club look like it’s run by a bunch of amateurs. 

I have no issue with interviewing several managers. Common sense, personally. 

They only went for Potter last time, and look how that worked out

[ROTG]

18 minutes ago, xceleryx said:

You know full well that's not how it works. 

Ok you win. 
let’s see how they perform when coached. 
I have doubts KK will ever be of an acceptable level to be one of the first on the team sheet. 

[Max Fowler]

3 hours ago, ROTG said:

Apart for a new coach - the bigger question is who are the backroom staff?

Barry gone, Team GP Gone, Team SFL gone in the summer no continuity from inside the club - Its a huge mess created by TB sports team, along with Neil Bath who is not pushing the likes of Andy Myers for a job with the first team

 

Bang on!

[boratsbrother]

8 hours ago, chara said:

That 's our problem looking in...we only get a Media version..as often guesswork I suspect...it suits the Media to make as much mischief and click bait as possible,

To say candidate X discussed things is not enough..or candidate Y was rejected ..they have to dramatise every often mmundane issue...to say candidate A was not offered enough or asked for too much is far to simple ....

I wasn't questioning your views as I'm sure you know...bad times for all of us.

It doesn't matter which way anyone spins this. The hard truth is we've gone from being able to attract the likes of  primetime Jose, Carlo and Conte, to now being left with two relative no-marks. It's every bit as big a downgrade as us going from a Drogba and Costa to a completely shot Auba.

Everythig Boehly and co touches at Chelsea  FC turns to 💩💩💩

Edited April 22, 2023 by boratsbrother