Thiago97 Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 I’m just clinging to the hope that this game is a turning point along the lines of Conte at Arsenal. It has all the feelings of that to me. I think and really hope that Poch has learned a lot here today. I just hope we look back on this as a blip. Yes , we are a young squad of players , but we have to cut this naivety out of our game. It stands out a mile and experienced teams and managers can counter it every time. This game was heading only one direction from half time. It was glaringly obvious cos it’s the same thing that happens , rinse and repeat for the last 2-3 seasons now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelsea_Matt Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 1 minute ago, Mark Kelly said: I don't suppose posting when you're boiling up inside with rage is really the done thing but I'm going to anyway Stewart and Winstanley should be sacked immediately. We don't need them. They're stealing a living. Where to start today? Once again, we're on about the tenth manager now, we have no idea what is going to occur when we have a corner or a free kick, no idea whatsoever. We've just sold fourteen or more first team players and bar the odd forward pass are playing exactly the same way as last season that had it lasted three weeks longer would have relegated us. Why? Before West Ham scored their second goal we passed and passed and passed and passed and passed and passed and passed and passed and passed and achieved nothing, West Ham could have ordered and eaten a Pizza in that time. We are the masters of stupidity we have not one whit of football intelligence throughout the squad, why is that? Is it because you can't plot a graph on "clever" so the stats boys don't understand it, like they don't understand character? Our keeper is rubbish. Our "new superstar" centre half is rubbish Our tricky winger is rubbish Our new holding midfielder is rubbish and stupid. Our one centre forward is isolated. Nobody has any idea of their role in the squad. They're making it up as they go along Absolute turds the lot of them. Lukaku: did someone say pizza? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Original 21 Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 I’m not saying this lightly. But if we’re not going to bring in a striker, then Lukaku is better than nothing. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelsea_Matt Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 I think also that the entire club is so “new”. It isn’t Chelsea- yet. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boratsbrother Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 3 minutes ago, Max Fowler said: The thing I'm most worried about is how damn young our squad is this season. It feels really unprecedented. I like a lot of the players and I like Poch. And I am willing to be patient. Having spent the money we've got no choice but to be patient now! Having said that, I've just turned Talk Sport on and already they have received messages of Poch out.🤯 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisb Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 3 minutes ago, Mark Kelly said: I don't suppose posting when you're boiling up inside with rage is really the done thing but I'm going to anyway Stewart and Winstanley should be sacked immediately. We don't need them. They're stealing a living. Where to start today? Once again, we're on about the tenth manager now, we have no idea what is going to occur when we have a corner or a free kick, no idea whatsoever. We've just sold fourteen or more first team players and bar the odd forward pass are playing exactly the same way as last season that had it lasted three weeks longer would have relegated us. Why? Before West Ham scored their second goal we passed and passed and passed and passed and passed and passed and passed and passed and passed and achieved nothing, West Ham could have ordered and eaten a Pizza in that time. We are the masters of stupidity we have not one whit of football intelligence throughout the squad, why is that? Is it because you can't plot a graph on "clever" so the stats boys don't understand it, like they don't understand character? Our keeper is rubbish. Our "new superstar" centre half is rubbish Our tricky winger is rubbish Our new holding midfielder is rubbish and stupid. Our one centre forward is isolated. Nobody has any idea of their role in the squad. They're making it up as they go along Absolute turds the lot of them. It might just be me but I’m getting the feeling that you’re not happy right now! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Box of Tricks Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 9 minutes ago, Chelsea_Matt said: No offence but how can we be pining for a player who hasn’t even played yet? More the prospect of him in that role - finally having someone with a bit of all-round creativity in the final third who'd be a foil for whoever played up top. Not to mention a goalscorer in his own right too. To have that ripped away before the season even started was a massive disappointment because beyond him, it's just last season's attack again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelsea_Matt Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 2 minutes ago, Box of Tricks said: More the prospect of him in that role - finally having someone with a bit of all-round creativity in the final third who'd be a foil for whoever played up top. Not to mention a goalscorer in his own right too. To have that ripped away before the season even started was a massive disappointment because beyond him, it's just last season's attack again. Yeah but we don’t know if he’s the answer yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bison Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 Disasi is not good and looks very heavy footed. Mudryk desperately needs a loan. Chilwell should never play LW again. Thiago Silva needs to be phased out ASAP. Sterling, Chukwuemeka and Jackson were all positives. Hopefully Chuks injury isn't a long one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Fowler Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 9 minutes ago, Original 21 said: I’m not saying this lightly. But if we’re not going to bring in a striker, then Lukaku is better than nothing. Was just thinking that. If there was some way there could be a coming together he could be ideal. Doesn't seem like Poch fancies him though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Kelly Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 1 minute ago, chrisb said: It might just be me but I’m getting the feeling that you’re not happy right now! I'm really not. I'd just like a job where I can point to a graph and blind someone with numbers, get paid a fortune and when it all goes Pete Tong, it will be someone else paying for it. Short of putting Enzo in a wheelchair by reversing the team bus over him Winstanley and Stewarts boy Caicedo had the worst debut ever. His performance was akin to Lukaku's when he first joined the club stupefied by the desire to do well and paralysed by fear. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thiago97 Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 3 minutes ago, Bison said: Disasi is not good and looks very heavy footed. Mudryk desperately needs a loan. Chilwell should never play LW again. Thiago Silva needs to be phased out ASAP. Sterling, Chukwuemeka and Jackson were all positives. Hopefully Chuks injury isn't a long one. I was not in love with bits of Disasi game last week. I thought he did alright first half, but looked lost 2nd half. It’s too early for him, but the signs are not great so far. Mudryk has to get a run of games starting. He is generally dreadful off the bench and struggles to pick up the pace and intensity of the game, barring his debut at Anfield . I agree on the positives. They were our best three players . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Kelly Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 4 minutes ago, Max Fowler said: Was just thinking that. If there was some way there could be a coming together he could be ideal. Doesn't seem like Poch fancies him though. Lukaku is a non person, I have more chance of playing for Chelsea and on today's evidence I'd get a game. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Kelly Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 8 minutes ago, Bison said: Disasi is not good and looks very heavy footed. Mudryk desperately needs a loan. Chilwell should never play LW again. Thiago Silva needs to be phased out ASAP. Sterling, Chukwuemeka and Jackson were all positives. Hopefully Chuks injury isn't a long one. It's heresy to talk about Silva like that but his lack of speed ensures we have to play a certain defensive set up and its generally to our detriment. It's like Alonso all over again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Box of Tricks Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 Just now, Chelsea_Matt said: Yeah but we don’t know if he’s the answer yet. True, but it's the hope, etc. But even with the bar as low as it has been, I don't think we can afford to lose a goalscorer and creator even if they don't produce stellar numbers. Looking around the squad, who really is capable of getting double figures or even near it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisb Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 I have a bit of a dilemma. My West Ham supporting co-worker went to the game but is returning to the office shortly to pick up his bag. Do I hit him with the CO2 extinguisher or the foam one? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Kelly Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 I am still fuming. West bloody Ham One of the worst teams in the world. A miserable scrotum faced Turd of a coach. Embarrassing. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Kelly Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 1 minute ago, chrisb said: I have a bit of a dilemma. My West Ham supporting co-worker went to the game but is returning to the office shortly to pick up his bag. Do I hit him with the CO2 extinguisher or the foam one? I say do what "Chelsea" would do. Offer no resistance 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bertles86 Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 Sterling was frankly fantastic today. Emerson had his arse handed to him all day. Negative being no one got on the end of any of his balls. Nkunku is the glaring elephant in the room. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Kelly Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 Enzo with the worst penalty since Diana Ross. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boratsbrother Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 Apparently, some fans at the game (don't know if they were ours or theirs) were laughing at Mudryk every time he got the ball. 🙁 I can't think of a player in the Premiership who's looked so poor every time he's played, to come back from that and become a top player. Hope he turns things around but it's not looking at all likely that he can.🙁 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Kelly Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 Apologies to Paul, he's going to go through all my angry ranting and be horrified! Anyone got an update on what nonsense Poch said post game as I'd lost the will to live by then. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Kenny Monkou Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 19 minutes ago, Mark Kelly said: I am still fuming. West bloody Ham One of the worst teams in the world. A miserable scrotum faced Turd of a coach. Embarrassing. Always raise their game against us. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Kenny Monkou Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 3 minutes ago, boratsbrother said: Apparently, some fans at the game (don't know if they were ours or theirs) were laughing at Mudryk every time he got the ball. 🙁 I can't think of a player in the Premiership who's looked so poor every time he's played, to come back from that and become a top player. Hope he turns things around but it's not looking at all likely that he can.🙁 I just don’t understand how players reaching the pinnacle of the game can be so lacking in confidence and appear so mentally weak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Fowler Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 5 minutes ago, boratsbrother said: Apparently, some fans at the game (don't know if they were ours or theirs) were laughing at Mudryk every time he got the ball. 🙁 I can't think of a player in the Premiership who's looked so poor every time he's played, to come back from that and become a top player. Hope he turns things around but it's not looking at all likely that he can.🙁 His mentality worries me. At least Jackson has a look in his eye of being a bit of a killer. Mudryk looks so nervous in actually half-important games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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