Tottenham Hotspur 1 Chelsea 4

[paulw66]

4 minutes ago, Chelsea_Matt said:

Over 90 minutes, Paul. Over 90 minutes.

But they didn't have 11 over 90 minutes. We won the penalty for 1-1 when it was 11 v 11 and the game was quite even at that point 

[Max Fowler]

Can anyone explain how Mudryk can consistently play so badly coming off the bench?

I am trying to be positive - happy for Poch and the lads - but Mudryk is so frustrating!!!

[Floyd25]

Being honest, have to agree the performance when spurs were down to ten and especially nine men was worrying, we definitely got away with it with Diers disallowed goal and Son’s chance, could’ve been an embarrassing result. Having said that, look we beat spurs 4-1 and our striker got a hatrick, just gotta smile for once and be happy with that. 

[Chelsea_Matt]

1 minute ago, paulw66 said:

But they didn't have 11 over 90 minutes. We won the penalty for 1-1 when it was 11 v 11 and the game was quite even at that point 

Maybe I’m just not making myself clear so I’ll try again.

If we were 11 v 11 for 90 mins in my opinion we would have been given an absolute hiding. 

[JonnyCFC]

3 minutes ago, Proud-Blue said:

We won 1-4 against Spurs away.

I don't give a shit about the less than perfect performance. I care about the more than perfect result.

We won and it feels MARVELLOUS!

Actually that’s a really good point.

In all the madness tonight, we have walked away with 3 much needed points and that’s what really matters.

We have also come away relatively unscathed unlike spurs with the two red cards and those injuries. So an excellent night for us.

 

[Mark Kelly]

As much as we have ragged the players for their innate lack of football intelligence they really did get three really good goals where they actually learned on the job what to do so kudos for that. 

And, and this is the big one 

We put four past Spurs away, pissed on their chips saw two of their players sent off and another two crocked which will totally derail their season. 

Got to be a good thing eh? 

[Sleeping Dave]

1 hour ago, SideshowLuiz said:

Jackson is just not clinical enough. Terrible finishing.

Hat trick. Sure, against 9  but still.  

[paulw66]

3 minutes ago, Chelsea_Matt said:

Maybe I’m just not making myself clear so I’ll try again.

If we were 11 v 11 for 90 mins in my opinion we would have been given an absolute hiding. 

Of course. You thought that before a ball was kicked. 

[Bones]

If he was our manager I would be fuming with the high line, that is what killed them.

[Chelsea_Matt]

Just now, paulw66 said:

Of course. You thought that before a ball was kicked. 

I wouldn’t have been wrong imo. But let’s leave it there as it’s hypothetical and we won..! 😁

[paulw66]

The sky pundits making some good points. You just don't prepare or ever play against a 9, particularly a 9 who play like that

[paulw66]

Just now, Chelsea_Matt said:

I wouldn’t have been wrong imo. But let’s leave it there as it’s hypothetical and we won..! 😁

We had two goals disallowed by then too 

[Chelsea_Matt]

1 minute ago, paulw66 said:

We had two goals disallowed by then too 

Disallowed. Yes. Disallowed.

[Max Fowler]

1 minute ago, paulw66 said:

The sky pundits making some good points. You just don't prepare or ever play against a 9, particularly a 9 who play like that

The problem is Paul we were making similar mistakes as in other games. Misplacing passes, making silly fouls, losing confidence. Yes there are particular actions needed but some familiar themes. I think a lot of that comes from confidence.

What a game for the neutral though!

[paulw66]

Just now, Chelsea_Matt said:

Disallowed. Yes. Disallowed.

Yes, but it shows how the game had turned after the bad opening period. 

 

Still, not bad for the worst team in the league. 

[paulw66]

1 minute ago, Max Fowler said:

The problem is Paul we were making similar mistakes as in other games. Misplacing passes, making silly fouls, losing confidence. Yes there are particular actions needed but some familiar themes. I think a lot of that comes from confidence.

What a game for the neutral though!

Yes, lots of nativity 

[Max Fowler]

One great thing about Poch is he's pretty calm at all times.

You get the feeling he's never gonna dig out these young boys.

He's the dad you feel safe under rather than the one you are slightly scared of (TT, Jose, Conte etc.)

[Ham]

33 minutes ago, Chelsea_Matt said:

11 v 11 we get an absolute hiding. 

We were on top from the Udogie two footed challenge onwards.  We were inches away from being 2 or 3-1 up.  Then we equalised. 

The game had already changed. We sussed out the high line and Sterling was having the right back on toast. 

26 minutes ago, Bison said:

Never experienced a 4-1 win feeling like a defeat. Awful, brain dead football. We are a million miles away. 

Jesus.  This forum is a joke. 

 

Edited November 6, 2023 by Ham

[Max Fowler]

 

 

[paulw66]

Spurs have the early kick off on Saturday with two suspensions and a few injuries 

[Box of Tricks]

1 minute ago, Max Fowler said:

 

 

 

Heartwarming.

[NoblyBobly]

5 minutes ago, Mark Kelly said:

As much as we have ragged the players for their innate lack of football intelligence they really did get three really good goals where they actually learned on the job what to do so kudos for that. 

And, and this is the big one 

We put four past Spurs away, pissed on their chips saw two of their players sent off and another two crocked which will totally derail their season. 

Got to be a good thing eh? 

All very good points. 
….but Spurs could have got a result with 9 men.  That would have been stuff of nightmares. 
City next, but who knows . We are taking points off of the top 4 teams . 

[Ham]

Just now, paulw66 said:

Spurs have the early kick off on Saturday with two suspensions and a few injuries 

I might just watch that 🙂

[Dwmh]

Very weird game.

• Pretty sure on one thing, Spurs will finish 20-25 points ahead of us.

Other obvious facts:

• On those chances a top CF would have 4.
• Spurs are still wound up about beating us to the point of losing control.
• Sanchez was the match winner with that late save from Son.  2-2 then and it finishes 2-2.
• Colwill had a game to forget.  Look for a picture of a defender turning away from a shot and showing 26 on his back - not many in blue.
• Posteglue is due a serious drubbing for that game - never mind the 2 Reds the high line was quite suicidal.  looks a crap manager to me
• Not just 2 totally unnecessary Red cards, a totally unnecessary Penalty
• I don't want to imagine a second half where we were actually losing till the 74th min
• Nevermind Poch having a go at the performance - someone seriously has to question our tactics and inability to beat the high line.
• Any of the bottom 5 teams would have gone ahead earlier and won by more if Spurs had played that high line with 10 men

 

15 minutes ago, Holymoly said:

VAR is destroying the game as we know it.

Just the opposite - compare the 2016 game with Clattenberg.  Just imagine how he would have reffed this game then - well in fact we know full well - Zero Red cards (well 1 red for James).

I thought the ref had a great game.  James's non-Red almost matches Romereo's non-Red.  There was a lot of falling over late on by Spurs to get the free kick which was their best route to goals, mostly waved on by the ref.  The second yellow was a tough call well made.  And i think all the offsides were correct calls  (if you play offside like Sterling and Jackson did there will be a lot of those).

 

16 minutes ago, Thiago97 said:

3 points yes……but I hope Poch rips into them after this. This 2nd half has been dreadful and awful game management and stupidity.

See above - Poch rips into them or Silva and senior pros rip into Poch.  The High line made Spurs extremely vulnerable.  The high line of our front 3 let them off the hook.  The goals were precisely the say to beat the trap, yet we tried attacks from deeper runs only 4 or 5 times in the game.

7 minutes ago, Max Fowler said:

We have the better players in a lot of positions and have spent far more money. 

Not surprising we will dominate some areas with the talent we have.

But I also feel we would have lost this game if it was 11 vs 11. Only Spurs ill discipline cost them.

Yes.  On points we gain.  On an honest assessment, this was poor by us.  I think we can cross off bad luck and referees now from our list of excuses for the season.

If one is looking for a positive viewpoint I guess one says that we physically dominated them and Spurs really did not like that and over reacted.  We do have a lot of tough guys in our midfield, add two very tough FBs today.

[Proud-Blue]

29 minutes ago, Bison said:

Never experienced a 4-1 win feeling like a defeat. Awful, brain dead football. We are a million miles away. 

On what planet can winning 4-1 away against Tottenham feel like a defeat?!?!