Bison Posted April 4, 2023 Share Posted April 4, 2023 1 minute ago, xceleryx said: And that's understandable. I suppose I'm also at the point where I just don't care either, so as long as it's not Potter on the bench I'm pretty much okay with whoever seeing the season out. My thinking too. The absolute last thing I wanted was Potter undertaking pre-season. I feared Boehly-Clearlake would be too stubborn to sack him before the end of the season. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Fowler Posted April 4, 2023 Share Posted April 4, 2023 Just now, Bones said: It just seemed to me he needed half a year off to vent and relax. He is ready now to return to coaching it would have been a fairlytale if we could have signed him back now. Again, I feel like Boehly could have recognised how likely Tuchel was to be stressed and give him some space at first. I do see a slim chance of him returning in a few years. If he does well at Bayern and doesn't blow up, cements his reputation as an absolutely top level coach. Time may pass and Boehly might learn and Tuchel might become the standout option available. With our setup in place there would be less pressure on the "collaboration" piece, and Frankly I hope that will get less important to the new owners as time goes by. They needed "collaboration" because they new absolutely nothing about football and needed Tuchel to explain why we can't play a 4-4-3 formation, why we shouldn't sign Ronaldo or Anthony Gordon. Hopefully in a few years this will have changed and they can see the wood from the trees a bit, and our structure will be in place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Fowler Posted April 4, 2023 Share Posted April 4, 2023 Right please can someone agree with this point because I think it's a good one. There's a huge irony that Potter failed because we threw so many (young) players at him. Many Chelsea fans had little sympathy that we had so many good players available. But we do have far too many right now and our transfer strategy has not been great. Can someone else get more out of these players? 100%. But we need some experience and we need to target key positions like centre-forward. Of course we need to let a lot of deadwood go in the process. I just find it hugely ironic that Boehly didn't just buy Potter a centre-forward in January. Instead loads of future young players that may be good for us long-term but cost Potter his job. He loved Potter so much and he could have made life much easier for him. That's not to excuse Potter, but if he was my man I would have done things very differently. Ironically - Boehly's incompetence has partly led to Potter's quick demise. Even if Potter hasn't helped himself either! LOL! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Fowler Posted April 4, 2023 Share Posted April 4, 2023 35 minutes ago, martin1905 said: We get him signed up ready for the summer or we move on, simple as that. Same applies for anyone really. We do not need to wait, we shouldn't wait and Bruno being put in temporary charge, whatever the club is saying publicly, says to me we won't wait. I just wonder if Nagelsmann is identified as the standout candidate and he won't decide right away... then what happens? Personally I'd be willing to wait on him - and if he goes to Madrid in summer instead try and get Ancelotti back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROTG Posted April 4, 2023 Share Posted April 4, 2023 44 minutes ago, martin1905 said: We get him signed up ready for the summer or we move on, simple as that. Same applies for anyone really. We do not need to wait, we shouldn't wait and Bruno being put in temporary charge, whatever the club is saying publicly, says to me we won't wait. Tubby comes tomorrow after we play his beloved dippers. He ticks all the boxes for an interim. Also puts him back in the shop window. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Moon Posted April 4, 2023 Share Posted April 4, 2023 53 minutes ago, Max Fowler said: Actually I think the beard did wonders for Potter and he would have never ever got the Chelsea job if not for it. Genuinely think the beard earned him that 60 million contract. That does it, mine's coming off. Reckon I'll get a rise in me pension ... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Moon Posted April 4, 2023 Share Posted April 4, 2023 3 minutes ago, ROTG said: Tubby comes tomorrow after we play his beloved dippers. He ticks all the boxes for an interim. Also puts him back in the shop window. No. Absolutely no. If I see him at SB tonight, he might be reported missing in the morning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martin1905 Posted April 4, 2023 Share Posted April 4, 2023 11 minutes ago, Max Fowler said: I just wonder if Nagelsmann is identified as the standout candidate and he won't decide right away... then what happens? Personally I'd be willing to wait on him - and if he goes to Madrid in summer instead try and get Ancelotti back. And in that time Enrique goes to PSG and Pochettino, I know you don't want him but humour me, goes back to Tottenham, Ancelotti goes to Brazil, Nagelsmann to Madrid and we are pretty screwed. We have to act now, even if it means waiting for them to come in the summer, they need to be signed up and committed. If someone is not willing to come now or commit for the summer then we move on. I don't think there is one single outstanding candidate, all the most likely ones are at a similar level and have their good and bad points. For me, the fact that it's not Potter is enough and anyone of the people we are linked with will get us back into the top 4 next season and we go from there. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarefreeMuratcan Posted April 4, 2023 Share Posted April 4, 2023 Just now, martin1905 said: If someone is not willing to come now or commit for the summer then we move on. I don't think this is a problem. We are in the CL Quarters with a quality squad that a quality manager could easily win the CL with. Whoever we go for will not say yes to Summer, but no to now. It's a free shot at the CL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martin1905 Posted April 4, 2023 Share Posted April 4, 2023 6 minutes ago, ROTG said: Tubby comes tomorrow after we play his beloved dippers. He ticks all the boxes for an interim. Also puts him back in the shop window. I know you like a wind up but this will not happen in a million years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martin1905 Posted April 4, 2023 Share Posted April 4, 2023 Just now, CarefreeMuratcan said: I don't think this is a problem. We are in the CL Quarters with a quality squad that a quality manager could easily win the CL with. Whoever we go for will not say yes to Summer, but no to now. It's a free shot at the CL. Oh, I agree, just making a point on if it was Nagelsmann who we really want and he doesn't want to come until the summer as he may fancy Madrid, we just say thanks, see you later and get someone else. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarefreeMuratcan Posted April 4, 2023 Share Posted April 4, 2023 4 minutes ago, martin1905 said: Oh, I agree, just making a point on if it was Nagelsmann who we really want and he doesn't want to come until the summer as he may fancy Madrid, we just say thanks, see you later and get someone else. Entirely agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exiledblue Posted April 4, 2023 Share Posted April 4, 2023 12 hours ago, Bones said: Bruno Saltor keeps banging about how difficult this sacking was for the players and Graham’s family. If you see Bruno Salter tell him how difficult the last 5 months have been for me and my family. Poor Graham has a nice big pay off so he will get over it but will we? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Kratos Posted April 4, 2023 Share Posted April 4, 2023 Yeah I'm sure Graham's family must be devastated with the missus now free to go on the a spending spree at harrods and the kids getting PS5s and ipads all Gift wrapped by uncle Todd. Football is the only job where you can be absolutely useless and walk away better off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Fowler Posted April 4, 2023 Share Posted April 4, 2023 29 minutes ago, martin1905 said: Oh, I agree, just making a point on if it was Nagelsmann who we really want and he doesn't want to come until the summer as he may fancy Madrid, we just say thanks, see you later and get someone else. The only thing is he's literally JUST been fired. And apparently it was quite devastating and unexpected. To ask him to commit right away - we might be able to give him a bit of space to consider... IF we consider that he is the outstanding candidate - and I suspect the club will come to that conclusion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bones Posted April 4, 2023 Share Posted April 4, 2023 Just watched the whole Bruno Saltor interview - this guy says that "Graham Potter did an amazing job at Chelsea".😩😩 😩 😩 😩 😩 😩 😩 😩 😩 😩 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Kratos Posted April 4, 2023 Share Posted April 4, 2023 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Bones said: Just watched the whole Bruno Saltor interview - this guy says that "Graham Potter did an amazing job at Chelsea".😩😩 😩 😩 😩 😩 😩 😩 😩 😩 😩 All I can say to Mr Saltor is, keep that up mate and you'll be going down faster than a certain boxer with your namesake. Edited April 4, 2023 by Blue Kratos 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Kelly Posted April 4, 2023 Share Posted April 4, 2023 41 minutes ago, martin1905 said: And in that time Enrique goes to PSG and Pochettino, I know you don't want him but humour me, goes back to Tottenham, Ancelotti goes to Brazil, Nagelsmann to Madrid and we are pretty screwed. We have to act now, even if it means waiting for them to come in the summer, they need to be signed up and committed. If someone is not willing to come now or commit for the summer then we move on. I don't think there is one single outstanding candidate, all the most likely ones are at a similar level and have their good and bad points. For me, the fact that it's not Potter is enough and anyone of the people we are linked with will get us back into the top 4 next season and we go from there. Talk of Rúben Amorim of Sporting in the media now . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Kelly Posted April 4, 2023 Share Posted April 4, 2023 7 minutes ago, Bones said: Just watched the whole Bruno Saltor interview - this guy says that "Graham Potter did an amazing job at Chelsea".😩😩 😩 😩 😩 😩 😩 😩 😩 😩 😩 In fairness he's hardly likely to say Potter is a clown who should never had been hired in the first place ! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xceleryx Posted April 4, 2023 Share Posted April 4, 2023 7 minutes ago, Mark Kelly said: Talk of Rúben Amorim of Sporting in the media now . Does he even speak English? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Singleton Posted April 4, 2023 Share Posted April 4, 2023 8 minutes ago, Mark Kelly said: Talk of Rúben Amorim of Sporting in the media now . He was mentioned when TT was sacked (apparently someone at the club "interviewed" him and was impressed) and again back in February Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bison Posted April 4, 2023 Share Posted April 4, 2023 28 minutes ago, Bones said: Just watched the whole Bruno Saltor interview - this guy says that "Graham Potter did an amazing job at Chelsea".😩😩 😩 😩 😩 😩 😩 😩 😩 😩 😩 The presser should have been cut short and he should have been escorted off the premises. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Kratos Posted April 4, 2023 Share Posted April 4, 2023 Just now, Bison said: The presser should have been cut short and he should have been escorted off the premises. And savagely beaten. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bison Posted April 4, 2023 Share Posted April 4, 2023 Just now, Blue Kratos said: And savagely beaten. Steady on! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Kratos Posted April 4, 2023 Share Posted April 4, 2023 Just now, Bison said: Steady on! Sorry Bison. Just venting after such a horrible 7 months. I will not tolerate another Potter fan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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