Chelsea Sack Graham Potter

[martin1905]

As part of that evolution, Spain are passing the ball with greater purpose and urgency, seeking to play the ball forward more quickly than has perhaps been the case in the past and going more direct when the opportunity presents itself.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.skysports.com/amp/football/news/11095/11523617/how-has-spains-style-changed-under-luis-enrique-since-the-world-cup

Orthodox wide forwards are used out wide rather than creative attacking midfielder who drift infield.

The positioning of these wide players is fundamental to how his teams play. They play an important role in making the pitch big, as well as pinning the opposition’s full-backs and preventing them from moving inside to create central overloads.

Once an initial press has been overcome, Enrique's teams look to progress forwards more swiftly than previous Spain teams might have done. They often look to get the ball to their wide forwards quickly, and Enrique selects players here who are good at dribbling directly towards goal at pace.

https://www.coachesvoice.com/cv/luis-enrique-spain-barcelona/

Under Pep Guardiola, Barcelona tended to build play along these lines: defender -> holding midfielder -> central midfielder.

From there, it could go to the fullback, or to the center-forward, or maybe back to the other central midfielder.

Luis Enrique has streamlined the process. Now it’s more defender -> fullback -> winger. 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.barcablaugranes.com/platform/amp/2016/12/22/14064182/tactics-key-difference-luis-enrique-barcelona-pep-guardiola

A few snippets from some articles about Luis Enrique, with the full articles linked. There's loads and loads of others, all saying similar things.

It's almost like we have built him a team 👀

[Mark Kelly]

[ROTG]

4 hours ago, Max Fowler said:

We're apparently modelling this project on Arteta, but the Chelsea fans don't like Potter, the reasons for him being hired and the previous manager being fired, and that tide grows stronger with terrible results and terrible interviews.

If that is the case then Team GP are wrong for the project. 
if you look at Arteta CV he has consistently put the Arse on an upward trend since day one of his appointment.  

[JaneB]

35 minutes ago, Mark Kelly said:

Humiliation complete.

I’m very disappointed in GP but feel uncomfortable with this portrayal.  Sorry.

[CarefreeMuratcan]

1 hour ago, My Blood Is Blue said:

It may be the rose tinted glasses I have on, but I wouldn’t be totally against Jose coming back again (pulls up the shutters and hides).

I wouldn't mind this either but we would need to wait until Summer for that and stick with Potter now or have an interim (Gus? Haha) in the meantime. 

 

[ROTG]

1 hour ago, martin1905 said:

It's almost like we have built him a team 👀

Chitty did something similar before pep arrived. 

[Mark Kelly]

14 minutes ago, JaneB said:

Humiliation complete.

I’m very disappointed in GP but feel uncomfortable with this portrayal.  Sorry.

It's unkind I know but resting Reece James when people on Mars can see we offer nothing without him?

[Ham]

4 minutes ago, Mark Kelly said:

It's unkind I know but resting Reece James when people on Mars can see we offer nothing without him?

To be fair he was managing his minutes after the injury although I'd have had him on the bench at least. 

[ROTG]

12 minutes ago, CarefreeMuratcan said:

I wouldn't mind this either but we would need to wait until Summer for that and stick with Potter now or have an interim (Gus? Haha) in the meantime. 

 

Reality will kick with TB and Co,  that if the team fail to win either of our next two PL matches all of a sudden there is a possibility the team could get enrolled in a relegation fight. 

[JaneB]

16 minutes ago, Mark Kelly said:

It's unkind I know but resting Reece James when people on Mars can see we offer nothing without him?

I know Mark, I understand.  
I’m just a softy.  Some managers would be fair game because they can give it out, ie Jose, but he seems a nice bloke, notwithstanding all his failings as a manager.

[chara]

11 minutes ago, ROTG said:

Reality will kick with TB and Co,  that if the team fail to win either of our next two PL matches all of a sudden there is a possibility the team could get enrolled in a relegation fight. 

Ask Not For Whom The Bell Tolls..........

10 points above the herd (without checking)....on current form those 10 points could turn into mist...and then what ?

In sadness now...not anger.

[chara]

3 minutes ago, JaneB said:

I know Mark, I understand.  
I’m just a softy.  Some managers would be fair game because they can give it out, ie Jose, but he seems a nice bloke, notwithstanding all his failings as a manager.

Very kind of you Jane and to your credit...

But GP isn't Sam ferrying his daughter to a match and supporting grass roots football without recompense.

GP is being very well paid to do a job and is failing dismally....in the Real World what happens?

[Mark Kelly]

24 minutes ago, Ham said:

To be fair he was managing his minutes after the injury although I'd have had him on the bench at least. 

Start him , get 3-0 by half time then rest him.

[Mark Kelly]

3 minutes ago, chara said:

Very kind of you Jane and to your credit...

But GP isn't Sam ferrying his daughter to a match and supporting grass roots football without recompense.

GP is being very well paid to do a job and is failing dismally....in the Real World what happens?

£12m per year I understand.

And we can't take corners

[JaneB]

4 minutes ago, chara said:

Very kind of you Jane and to your credit...

But GP isn't Sam ferrying his daughter to a match and supporting grass roots football without recompense.

GP is being very well paid to do a job and is failing dismally....in the Real World what happens?

You paint him as a clown 🤡 

[ROTG]

10 minutes ago, chara said:

10 points above the herd (without checking)

Spuds, Chitty, the Arse, ManUre all away games. I wonder how many points we will get from those games. 
 

I believe Martin1905 eluded to the teams run in one of the topics. 

[chara]

4 minutes ago, JaneB said:

You paint him as a clown 🤡 

No No No Jane....check my agree on your "paint" post....

I was stating plain facts not insulting GP.

[ROTG]

5 minutes ago, JaneB said:

You paint him as a clown 🤡 

Clowns entertain people.

Team GP are Buffoons 

[Mark Kelly]

Put your mortgage on Felix winning Chelseafccom's goal of the month competition.

 

 

It's the only one we've scored.

Edited February 19, 2023 by Mark Kelly

[martin1905]

1 hour ago, ROTG said:

Spuds, Chitty, the Arse, ManUre all away games. I wonder how many points we will get from those games. 
 

I believe Martin1905 eluded to the teams run in one of the topics. 

Yep, 2 wins and 8 goals in the last 14. Averaging 0.85 points per game or 32 points a season which means relegation in almost every season since the league has been formed.

 

[thevelourfog]

3 hours ago, martin1905 said:

It's almost like we have built him a team 👀

Idk if it's what you're suggesting, but there is literally no way these owners spent, what, in the region of £40-50m sacking one coach and appointing another just for that coach to preside over a relatively short-term rebuild getting the team ready for an actual coach. It would be giving them far, far too much credit. They genuinely thought they were ahead of the pack.

1 hour ago, ROTG said:

Reality will kick with TB and Co,  that if the team fail to win either of our next two PL matches all of a sudden there is a possibility the team could get enrolled in a relegation fight. 

Reality should kick in for us now. We are already in a relegation fight. We have been in that form for months, propped up by the points a coach who very, very clearly now was doing the most that could be done with the players.

For me, you only get a coach in now who properly specialises in drilling players and who you don't pay a fortune for to release from a club. You'd stay an absolute mile away from a Thomas Frank (who'd surely stay a couple of miles away from us, tbh) and you'd go for Pochettino or Enrique. We don't need a f**king project, you need someone to come in and get these players rehearsing, rehearsing, rehearsing until even the most basic passing triangles, overlapping runs and diagonals are muscle memory. 

[martin1905]

20 minutes ago, thevelourfog said:

Idk if it's what you're suggesting, but there is literally no way these owners spent, what, in the region of £40-50m sacking one coach and appointing another just for that coach to preside over a relatively short-term rebuild getting the team ready for an actual coach. It would be giving them far, far too much credit. They genuinely thought they were ahead of the pack.

No, I agree they thought we were stealing a march in getting Potter when we did but I don't for one second believe they are stupid enough to think anything other than that they made a mistake and all the money spent and the players bought have nothing to do with Potter. I truly believe he was not even consulted on the players we bought in January, he was told what he'd get and that was that.

I think they know they fucked up and are already have the next manager lined up. 

Nothing else makes any sense.

20 minutes ago, thevelourfog said:

Reality should kick in for us now. We are already in a relegation fight. We have been in that form for months, propped up by the points a coach who very, very clearly now was doing the most that could be done with the players.

For me, you only get a coach in now who properly specialises in drilling players and who you don't pay a fortune for to release from a club. You'd stay an absolute mile away from a Thomas Frank (who'd surely stay a couple of miles away from us, tbh) and you'd go for Pochettino or Enrique. We don't need a f**king project, you need someone to come in and get these players rehearsing, rehearsing, rehearsing until even the most basic passing triangles, overlapping runs and diagonals are muscle memory. 

Would you be happy with Pochettino?

See you've mentioned him a couple of times now.

[thevelourfog]

11 minutes ago, martin1905 said:

Would you be happy with Pochettino?

See you've mentioned him a couple of times now.

"Happy" is relative, isn't it. Is he who I'd ideally want here? No, my ideal is that we don't let go of legitimately a top three in the world coach and appoint Graham Potter. But it's done. I'd be "happy" with any coach who didn't come at huge expense and we've seen really focuses on the training pitch. Pochettino, for any other faults, fits that bill. So my mood would improve, even if I wouldn't be happy as such!

Edited February 19, 2023 by thevelourfog

[martin1905]

1 minute ago, thevelourfog said:

"Happy" is relative, isn't it. Is he who I'd ideally want here? No, my ideal is that we don't let go of legitimately a top three in the world coach and appoint Graham Potter. But it's done. I'd be "happy" with any coach who didn't come at his expense and we've seen really focuses on the training pitch. Pochettino, for any other faults, fits that bill. So my mood would improve, even if I wouldn't be happy as such!

I hear you.

So, and I know you previously didn't think there was any chance of Potter getting sacked this season, I assume you must think there is at least more of a chance now than we we previously spoke about it, do we sack him now and get Pochettino or wait until the summer and get someone else, whoever that may be?

Assume you think there is no chance of Tuchel coming back? He would be my preference, pretty sure we agree on him, in terms of just how good he is.

What's your thoughts on Jose? Would you like him and do you think he would, or more importantly, as I'm sure he would, would we?

[east lower]

7 hours ago, Mark Kelly said:

Having done the same with my Mums house , I feel your pain. It's horrid.

Finished now, had to fill a 8 yard skip. It’s  truly horrid, as you say. Binning people’s lives.

Just heard from a pal who works at Cobham, that training has been cancelled tomorrow!! If true, then that’s it then.