thevelourfog Posted June 3 Share Posted June 3 It's hard for me to look at the last two years and see anything other than a sacking by March, here. I very much hope I'm wrong. I think we've been one of the worst coached, possibly even the outright worst coached, teams in the league for a while now. Very little in the way of patterns of passing or movement. So it will be interesting to see if this "obsession" with coaching is clear (obviously not perfected) from day one, in the same way that Tuchel's first game was the first time in 18 months players bothered to form passing triangles. I think we will get a sense of what Maresca is very quickly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Kelly Posted June 3 Share Posted June 3 Just now, McCreadie said: I always got the sense that Poch's English got better or worse depending how taxing the question was... I still fondly remember his first season at Spurs where he steadfastly refused to admit he could speak and understand English perfectly . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Mark Kelly Posted June 3 Popular Post Share Posted June 3 Just now, thevelourfog said: It's hard for me to look at the last two years and see anything other than a sacking by March, here. I very much hope I'm wrong. I think we've been one of the worst coached, possibly even the outright worst coached, teams in the league for a while now. Very little in the way of patterns of passing or movement. So it will be interesting to see if this "obsession" with coaching is clear (obviously not perfected) from day one, in the same way that Tuchel's first game was the first time in 18 months players bothered to form passing triangles. I think we will get a sense of what Maresca is very quickly. Agreed . Rumours that he's told Enzo , Disasi and Badiashile that they are not to go the the olympics as he needs to get his methods over pre season bode well. Tactics . Blimey , we've grown up. 2 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
east lower Posted June 3 Share Posted June 3 25 minutes ago, Mark Kelly said: I still fondly remember his first season at Spurs where he steadfastly refused to admit he could speak and understand English perfectly . He could speak it before Spuds, when he was at Southampton. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarefreeMuratcan Posted June 3 Share Posted June 3 We've got two Enzos, we've got two Enzos! 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonnyCFC Posted June 3 Share Posted June 3 Welcome Enzo and good luck!! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boratsbrother Posted June 3 Share Posted June 3 Best of luck Enzo....you're gonna need it to last at Chelsea! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
east lower Posted June 3 Share Posted June 3 7 minutes ago, boratsbrother said: Best of luck Enzo....you're gonna need it to last at Chelsea! Right, who's taking 'nearest the pin' dates for when he's relieved of his duties? Good luck and all that - I hope you're the right man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Kelly Posted June 3 Share Posted June 3 Turned on Sky Sports news to see the fanfare. They have next to no interest as Madrid have announced Mbappe and nothing says English sports news channel than a corrupt Spanish side spending a kings ransom on a big head. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asvaberg Posted June 3 Share Posted June 3 2 hours ago, McCreadie said: I always got the sense that Poch's English got better or worse depending how taxing the question was... Italians speaking English is light-years better than Spanish with a bad English vocabulary 😁 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post paulw66 Posted June 3 Popular Post Share Posted June 3 3 hours ago, My Blood Is Blue said: I'm pleased to see Willy The child in me couldn't resist.......... I'm 43 FFS. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floyd25 Posted June 3 Share Posted June 3 Why I have read that he wants to stick with Sanchez in goal next season? Has he actually watched him play, or is this complete nonsense? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Kelly Posted June 3 Share Posted June 3 13 minutes ago, Floyd25 said: Why I have read that he wants to stick with Sanchez in goal next season? Has he actually watched him play, or is this complete nonsense? I read they're looking to offload Sanchez so it's the usual morons writing what they want to happen rather than what is actually happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueandproud Posted June 3 Share Posted June 3 Welcome to the madhouse Enzo, and good luck you'll need it with these owners and board. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exiledblue Posted June 3 Share Posted June 3 Welcome and good luck. Feels like another Todd 'finger in the air' decision supported by tweedle dum and tweedle dee (winstanley and stewart) and what on earth is the point of a chelsea manager getting a 5 year plaus contract (apart from the generous payoff when he is sacked at xmas) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post RDCW Posted June 3 Popular Post Share Posted June 3 (edited) I have to laugh at the innate scepticism of the dyed-in-the-wool, long-suffering, weighed down with trophies Chelsea fans! I'm one of you..........but not in this instance! I really believe they've got this appointment right and that Enzo is going to be a success here: he is what we were crying out for last season, someone with a plan, someone who fits in with the new club structure and ethos, someone with a grasp of fundamental tactics, even dare I say strategy, and yet someone with the soft skills for which Pochettino was lauded. I think the players in last year's squad were much better than Poch made them look. With a better coach in place and an even stronger squad (returning injured like Lavia, Nkunku, James and with luck Fofana at some point), as well as the 3 rumoured crucial signings, I expect us to finish in the top 4. The boys managed to find a sporadically effective way of playing without any discernible intelligent input from Pochettino last season, so imagine how good they can be with a bit of a blueprint! As I said, I'm normally as much of a card-carrying sceptic as the rest of you, but I'm optimistic about next season now, so feel free to point and laugh if it does go as badly as you think it will! As for Wales V South Africa on June 22nd you have no similar rights when it comes to that one. It is morally wrong to mock the afflicted. Edited June 3 by RDCW 4 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Kratos Posted June 3 Share Posted June 3 4 hours ago, Floyd25 said: Why I have read that he wants to stick with Sanchez in goal next season? Has he actually watched him play, or is this complete nonsense? Maresca out!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Singleton Posted June 3 Share Posted June 3 (edited) I, too, share your optimism for next season (and beyond), @RDCW Edited June 3 by Bob Singleton Typo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xceleryx Posted June 4 Share Posted June 4 Looking forward to seeing what Maresca can do. Was fond of him as a player at Juventus, and if he brings the attitude he held during that period of his career into the club at a coaching level, he'll instil some good traits into this group. I expect there to be a bit of a transition period in terms of players adapting to what he demands, so not anticipating us to pull up tress immediately but I can see this appointment being a step in the right direction with respects to ticking the boxes we need. Curious to see what we do in the market now to support him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chara Posted June 4 Share Posted June 4 (edited) Out of curiosity I looked up Steve Holland's "resume".... a well respected ex Chelsea man and one often mentioned when discussions lead to new management etc. Compared to Maresca Steve has a much less impressive career path...not knocking his Chelsea input and like him.... Maresca has an excellent playing record and his below the EPL coaching jobs were of higher calibre and better results than Steve.... doesn't prove anything until the rubber hits the road but our new man is not quite the random choice sometimes portrayed. Not meant as a discussion of relative merits just looking at perception v reality. Steve has proved his worth at Chelsea Let's see what Maresca can do. Feel better than I did when The Poch arrived and certainly far more settled than when Potter lucked in. Edited June 4 by chara 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Tucker Posted June 4 Share Posted June 4 33 minutes ago, xceleryx said: Looking forward to seeing what Maresca can do. Me too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Moon Posted June 4 Share Posted June 4 I dont feel the negativity I did towards the two p’s - Potter and Poch - but then again nor is there the warm feeling of Frank or the thrill of Tommy T - I wait with bated breathe … Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thiago97 Posted June 4 Share Posted June 4 It’s going to be interesting to see how it plays out. We know he needs to produce a serious top4 challenge. If we can keep key players fit and make 1-3 genuine quality additions, then we can make top4 . I see us starting well under him. I think the players will embrace the change once they get on the training field, and I can see a start of something like 18-20pts from our opening 10 games. I just think our lack of a killer instinct will prove to be a problem over the season. Possession fatigue without being clinical and scoring the goals we should is my main concern. When it’s fresh and new, I expect we will look good. When it’s embedded and we suffer frustrating results and don’t score the goals we should, I see rocky periods where the players and fans faith in the plan will be shaken. We still need three important players through the spine , possibly four including a GK. Lavia and Nkunku are of key importance. If we get close to 30PL games from them both, then no top4 is a massive failure really. Surely no club can have a repeat of the injuries we had last season! My prediction would be 4th-5th. A positive start and finish, the rocky period coming from Nov - Jan . This is the period where I fear lack of quality chances and lack of clinical nature will cost us points, it’s how much damage it does. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exiledblue Posted June 4 Share Posted June 4 1 hour ago, Blue Moon said: I dont feel the negativity I did towards the two p’s - Potter and Poch - but then again nor is there the warm feeling of Frank or the thrill of Tommy T - I wait with bated breathe … Not the great negativity but also not a great entusiasm. Problem is we have seen so many come and go we are becoming a bit indifferent. No point for extreme enthusiasm or negativity as it will all change again within a year or so. Sadly, the surprise will be if it doesnt. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bison Posted June 4 Share Posted June 4 12 hours ago, Mark Kelly said: Turned on Sky Sports news to see the fanfare. They have next to no interest as Madrid have announced Mbappe and nothing says English sports news channel than a corrupt Spanish side spending a kings ransom on a big head. Mbappe was a free agent to be fair. As for Real Madrid, what a club. They follow up a Champions League win by signing Mbappe whilst we announce a Championship manager on a six year contract. Standards have never been lower. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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