My Blood Is Blue Posted July 7 Share Posted July 7 Please use this thread for all posts relating to England's Semi-Final match against Netherlands at the BVB Stadion Dortmund before, during and after the game. The match is scheduled to kick off at 20:00 hours on Wednesday, 10th July 2024 (Local UK time/date) (Live on ITV1) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sciatika Posted July 7 Share Posted July 7 I'll copy this here so you can all tell me what an idiot I am. Fire away. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I would stick with three at the back and bench Kane in favour of Toney. ------------------- Pickford ----------Konsa----Stones----Guehi Saka------------Rice-----Mainoo-------Shaw --------Bellingham --------------Foden ----------------------Toney I would look to bring in energy (Palmer, Eze, Gallagher) at 60' not 75' and have Kane and Watkins on the bench if Toney is struggling. Southgate will probably revert to 4-2-3-1 with TTA in midfield and Trippier on the left. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kev61 Posted July 8 Share Posted July 8 15 hours ago, Sciatika said: I'll copy this here so you can all tell me what an idiot I am. Fire away. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I would stick with three at the back and bench Kane in favour of Toney. ------------------- Pickford ----------Konsa----Stones----Guehi Saka------------Rice-----Mainoo-------Shaw --------Bellingham --------------Foden ----------------------Toney I would look to bring in energy (Palmer, Eze, Gallagher) at 60' not 75' and have Kane and Watkins on the bench if Toney is struggling. Southgate will probably revert to 4-2-3-1 with TTA in midfield and Trippier on the left. When Palmer came on he always improved the team - just an observation from someone who couldn't give a shit about the euro's, but I thought it was worth mentioning for our boy. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sciatika Posted July 8 Share Posted July 8 Agreed. I see him as a disrupter. He would give us an injection of pace and something different to confuse defences. So, he could replace one of the AMs or for, say, Mainoo, playing on the left with Bellinghman going more central as #10. It would be a 3-3-3-1, something like below, but with a very fluid advanced midfield that constantly swaps positions. ------------------- Pickford ----------Konsa----Stones----Guehi ------------------------Rice Saka---------------------------------------Shaw --------Palmer---Bellingham ---Foden ----------------------Toney I am going to have to get out the time machine again so the players can train the formation, do patterns of play and set-piece work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
My Blood Is Blue Posted July 10 Author Share Posted July 10 If it were me, I would start with a team closer to the one that finished the quarter final. I would be much more attacking than we have been and take the game to the Dutch. This obviously isn't going to happen, but it's good to have a dream. Pickford Walker - Stones - Guehi - Shaw Bellingham - Foden Saka - Palmer - Gordon Toney Foden has offered little at this tournament, mainly because he has played out of position, but nonetheless, Palmer has looked much more of a threat and handful for defenders in his cameos throughout. Gordon over Eze for me, to help give us some pace and width. What we will see, I think is a continuation of the back 3, but with Guehi in for Konsa and Shaw off the bench again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Kelly Posted July 10 Share Posted July 10 At this stage I expect Southgate would pick Bobby Moore if he wasn't dead . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgs Posted July 10 Share Posted July 10 The hope is Koeman won't have Holland press us all over the pitch like Switzerland, Slovakia and the rest did. I think if they focus on creating room and playing their game (which is the Dutch way) we will have a lot more joy from our attacking threats if they aren't being pressed off the pitch. England - like Chelsea - have always looked better when given room and time to play. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulw66 Posted July 10 Share Posted July 10 We have to play well eventually. Hopefully it starts tonight! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulw66 Posted July 10 Share Posted July 10 (edited) 7 hours ago, My Blood Is Blue said: If it were me, I would start with a team closer to the one that finished the quarter final. I would be much more attacking than we have been and take the game to the Dutch. This obviously isn't going to happen, but it's good to have a dream. Pickford Walker - Stones - Guehi - Shaw Bellingham - Foden Saka - Palmer - Gordon Toney Foden has offered little at this tournament, mainly because he has played out of position, but nonetheless, Palmer has looked much more of a threat and handful for defenders in his cameos throughout. Gordon over Eze for me, to help give us some pace and width. What we will see, I think is a continuation of the back 3, but with Guehi in for Konsa and Shaw off the bench again. That probably should be the team Sadly; no chance. Edit - presumably that's Rice, not Foden at DM? Edited July 10 by paulw66 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Kelly Posted July 10 Share Posted July 10 Just turned the news on and they interviewed three generations of England supporters out there tonight . There was Grandad Terry There was Son Terry And there was little Terry. They all think we're going to win. Which is quite a feat of imagination given the lack of it on show. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROTG Posted July 10 Share Posted July 10 Oh dear, Another game with Kane Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chara Posted July 10 Share Posted July 10 That was a very harsh penalty decision. Given against England (or Chelsea) how would you feel? Still..they all count. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROTG Posted July 10 Share Posted July 10 (edited) Kane has to be hooked at HT. 9 of the outfielders have guile and movement and then there is Mr Kane. Ronaldo MK ll Edited July 10 by ROTG 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROTG Posted July 10 Share Posted July 10 (edited) Well done England. Well gone Gareth for hooking Kane “eventually” Edited July 10 by ROTG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROTG Posted July 10 Share Posted July 10 3 hours ago, Mark Kelly said: Just turned the news on and they interviewed three generations of England supporters out there tonight . There was Grandad Terry There was Son Terry And there was little Terry. They all think we're going to win. Which is quite a feat of imagination given the lack of it on show. Face egg, Egg Face. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asvaberg Posted July 10 Share Posted July 10 Well done Palmer/Watkins 😁 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Kelly Posted July 10 Share Posted July 10 22 minutes ago, ROTG said: Face egg, Egg Face. Happy to be wrong to be honest . 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floyd25 Posted July 10 Share Posted July 10 Never a pen, but delighted to make the final, Southgate-ball is hardly thrilling to watch, but the man gets the job done to be fair, stopping Spain will be very difficult though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floyd25 Posted July 10 Share Posted July 10 2 hours ago, asvaberg said: Well done Palmer/Watkins 😁 Palmer makes things happen, doesn’t play easy passes and Watkins is a class finisher, shame England won’t start either of them in the final. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asvaberg Posted July 11 Share Posted July 11 (edited) 10 hours ago, chara said: That was a very harsh penalty decision. Given against England (or Chelsea) how would you feel? Still..they all count. Hmmm----what if this was us in a cup final against Sp**s, we are 0-1 down with 1 minute left to play, and Jackson tried to shoot like Kane but couldn't complete the shoot properly as he was blocked by Romero in the same way Kane was? Definitely a penalty, right?? 😁 Edited July 11 by asvaberg 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
My Blood Is Blue Posted July 11 Author Share Posted July 11 England in another final… can they go one further and win it?! I think we’d stand more chance of winning it without Kane on the pitch to be honest, but that’s never going to happen. Penalty was incredibly harsh and I’d be furious if it was given against my team, but in this context I don’t care. England have had plenty of bad luck at international tournaments, so it’s nice to see a bit fall our way. You have to hand it to Southgate, he’s incredibly lucky if nothing else! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sciatika Posted July 11 Share Posted July 11 Luck is an essential trait of any successful manager. Training is simply a means of limiting the need for good fortune. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulw66 Posted July 11 Share Posted July 11 9 hours ago, Floyd25 said: Never a pen, 1 hour ago, My Blood Is Blue said: Penalty was incredibly harsh and I’d be furious if it was given against my team, but in this context I don’t care. If the roles were reversed (defender clearing it and the attacker caught him), it would be a free kick ALL DAY. If it had happened outside of the box, it would be a free kick ALL DAY. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarefreeMuratcan Posted July 11 Share Posted July 11 This is like our CL run 2012, the stars are aligning. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasonb Posted July 11 Share Posted July 11 10 hours ago, Floyd25 said: Palmer makes things happen, doesn’t play easy passes and Watkins is a class finisher, shame England won’t start either of them in the final. Southgate put them on when the game was stretched so they only had one man marking them. Palmer creates the chance and Watkins first touch despatches it, excellent. If we are honest apart from the goal Palmer by my count gave the ball away twice and blasted wide, of course that won't be remembered and he will be credited with the assist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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