boratsbrother Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 2 hours ago, Blue Moon said: .... except rumours abound of him speaking to the North-Western Victims ... The only way I can see him turning down the Liverpool job would be if they win 3 or 4 trophies this season. He might then look at the job and think that kind of success will be very hard to match and the only way is down from that. Looking at the Chelsea job he might think the only way is up for him with so much more room for improvement at the club. However, the club never giving managers time to build anything might well be a major turnoff? On paper he looks like an idel fit for us and would certainly be my number one choice should we sack Poch this summer. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
east lower Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 And so the media will begin to whip-up stories to get the interest of the law-makers in how we are now supposedly gerrymandering the systems! So predictable. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Backbiter Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 25 minutes ago, east lower said: And so the media will begin to whip-up stories to get the interest of the law-makers in how we are now supposedly gerrymandering the systems! So predictable. Finding sponsors has to be financial doping. No other team would be allowed to get away with that. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bert19 Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/68542494 Hopefully he's on Liverpool's radar to replace Klopp 🤞 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROTG Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 18 hours ago, east lower said: And so the media will begin to whip-up stories to get the interest of the law-makers in how we are now supposedly gerrymandering the systems! So predictable. Unfortunately the club has put itself into a position of not being Blue Chip anymore and having to be creative with finding ways of funding. As was seen this season with the sponsorship fiasco and not forgetting two season out of Europe will have a direct impact on revenue streams. If there is any truth in the club trying to broker deals for players to saudi, I wonder if the club has bothered to inform the players. This is where IMO the rounder business model is being applied, where players who are contracted to the club can be sold to whichever club pays the most amount of money, without any discussion with he player or representatives, this works in rounders because the players will be moving across states and not countries with different laws, languages and customs. As for the year end losses of BlueCo & Chelsea on could say there has been some very clever creative accounting, and that is probably why creamcakes has such brilliant portfolio. 😀 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SideshowLuiz Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 18 hours ago, Bert19 said: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/68542494 Hopefully he's on Liverpool's radar to replace Klopp 🤞 It's not been a great year for ex-Chelsea managers has it? Jose sacked at Roma, Sarri's just resigned from Lazio, TFSW sacked, TT supposedly soft-sacked by the end of the season. But I guess some would say it hasn't been a great year for the current Chelsea manager either! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sciatika Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 AVB walked out of Marseilles over transfer policy, and Grant is holed up somewhere in Zambia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
east lower Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 13 hours ago, ROTG said: Unfortunately the club has put itself into a position of not being Blue Chip anymore and having to be creative with finding ways of funding. As was seen this season with the sponsorship fiasco and not forgetting two season out of Europe will have a direct impact on revenue streams. If there is any truth in the club trying to broker deals for players to saudi, I wonder if the club has bothered to inform the players. This is where IMO the rounder business model is being applied, where players who are contracted to the club can be sold to whichever club pays the most amount of money, without any discussion with he player or representatives, this works in rounders because the players will be moving across states and not countries with different laws, languages and customs. As for the year end losses of BlueCo & Chelsea on could say there has been some very clever creative accounting, and that is probably why creamcakes has such brilliant portfolio. 😀 There appears to be an active and perhaps collaborative relationship between the Cupcakes and the Saudi state/kingdom/investment team. My guess is that they use this ‘relationship’ to broker deals that work in the interests of both parties and the investment. My understanding is that the Saudi’s have a huge investment portfolio with Clearlake. So to my uneducated mind, it would benefit those investors to protect their money by doing all they can to ‘support’ that investment vehicle. Again a guess, they’ll try to shift Sterling to Saudi for about the same that paid for him. That would provide profit to offset against FFP/PSR and get the highest earner off the books. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chara Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 38 minutes ago, east lower said: Again a guess, they’ll try to shift Sterling to Saudi for about the same that paid for him. That would provide profit to offset against FFP/PSR and get the highest earner off the books. Plus the "bungs" many of us on here would be ready and willing to add as a sweetener!💸 🐪🧧🎫🛫🧳 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROTG Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 10 hours ago, chara said: Plus the "bungs" many of us on here would be ready and willing to add as a sweetener!💸 🐪🧧🎫🛫🧳 There are a lot more duds from todd & eggy's £1b splurge that should be ahead of him in the exit door, but hey a proven international who's played at the highest level for a majority of his career is an easy target, same as the other one who was sent to Coventry. Maybe it is the case everyone is coming around to the new mid table chelsea model of no winners in the squad just saleable assets. BTW if you look Raheem stats between the age of 18 -23, one would suspect he would have been the exact profile the data analysts are looking to recruit for the club. Its a funny old game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROTG Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 11 hours ago, east lower said: they’ll try to shift Sterling to Saudi for about the same that paid for him Got a feeling that will not happen, I think Raheem still believes he has something to offer in the PL or maybe a European team might be an option, but no club will pay £45m for him except as you say creamcakes buddies in saudi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Kelly Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 45 minutes ago, ROTG said: BTW if you look Raheem stats between the age of 18 -23, one would suspect he would have been the exact profile the data analysts are looking to recruit for the club. Sadly for Raheem , they eye test is the most important in his case , a talented player but not a team player is how his card would be marked after his Chelsea tenure . I think he's a decent player and I think with some proper coaching he'd be returning far better on our investment than he currently is But coaching is apparently old hat these days Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulw66 Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 27 minutes ago, Mark Kelly said: Sadly for Raheem , they eye test is the most important in his case , a talented player but not a team player is how his card would be marked after his Chelsea tenure . I think he's a decent player and I think with some proper coaching he'd be returning far better on our investment than he currently is But coaching is apparently old hat these days Since he has been here, his numbers have been as good (or better) than the other forwards. But being the highest earner, he is, quite rightly, expected to do more. If he stays, he will continue to be a useful player to have, but I can understand the club thinking we could do with getting rid of those wages. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boratsbrother Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 (edited) 35 minutes ago, Mark Kelly said: I think he's a decent player and I think with some proper coaching he'd be returning far better on our investment than he currently is But coaching is apparently old hat these days HIs time at Chelsea is panning out exactly how some of us said it would do when we signed him. He was always a pace merchant who relied heavily on having top class players carving open defences and laying on tons of simple chances for him to tap in. As we saw on Monday when he was put through for what would once have been a simple one on one with the keeper, he no longer has the pace fo leave the defenders behind and that in the end cost him a goal. He also doesn't have top quality teamates carving open defences for him for his regular tap ins at the far post. That is why he is now a bang average player being paid obscene wages way, way above his value to the team. Not as insufferable and poisonous as the ego monster but just as bad a signing for us. Edited March 14 by boratsbrother 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROTG Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 17 minutes ago, boratsbrother said: That is why he is now a bang average player being paid obscene wages way, way above his value to the team. His Transfer fee, contract and wages were negotiated by Todd Boehly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaneB Posted March 14 Author Share Posted March 14 Chelsea agree deal with Brentford to make Bernardo Cueva their set-piece coach next season, despite Mauricio Pochettino dismissing the idea of a specialist | Daily Mail Online Well apart from some much needed eye candy on the coaching staff I'm not sure what's behind this appointment. I can't imagine MP is very happy about it but then he won't be here next season anyway. More madness from owners who have no idea what they're doing and shouldn't be making appointments like this. Stop interfering 😡 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Kelly Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 19 minutes ago, JaneB said: Chelsea agree deal with Brentford to make Bernardo Cueva their set-piece coach next season, despite Mauricio Pochettino dismissing the idea of a specialist | Daily Mail Online Well apart from some much needed eye candy on the coaching staff I'm not sure what's behind this appointment. I can't imagine MP is very happy about it but then he won't be here next season anyway. More madness from owners who have no idea what they're doing and shouldn't be making appointments like this. Stop interfering 😡 I would imagine they're a bit non-plussed at the level of coaching the head coach is getting around to doing and are trying to turn the tide somewhat . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaneB Posted March 14 Author Share Posted March 14 5 minutes ago, Mark Kelly said: I would imagine they're a bit non-plussed at the level of coaching the head coach is getting around to doing and are trying to turn the tide somewhat . Well yes but why not sack the manager and his staff and start again…..or maybe that’s what they’re doing 🤔 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boratsbrother Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 46 minutes ago, ROTG said: His Transfer fee, contract and wages were negotiated by Todd Boehly And Lukaku's were under the previous owners. At least the fee for Sterling wasn't quite as mad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bert19 Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 1 hour ago, JaneB said: Well yes but why not sack the manager and his staff and start again…..or maybe that’s what they’re doing 🤔 Well, to be fair we used to sack managers but keep people like Steve Holland, Chris Jones etc in place as constants at the Club back when we were successful - so maybe not a terrible idea to move towards that model again instead of the whole setup disappearing if a Manager isn't successful. FWIW, I think the Club are actually trying to put things and people in place to make us a success longer term. But the Jury is still out on whether they are getting the right people and the right mix to work together. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulw66 Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 2 hours ago, JaneB said: Chelsea agree deal with Brentford to make Bernardo Cueva their set-piece coach next season, despite Mauricio Pochettino dismissing the idea of a specialist | Daily Mail Online Well apart from some much needed eye candy on the coaching staff I'm not sure what's behind this appointment. I can't imagine MP is very happy about it but then he won't be here next season anyway. More madness from owners who have no idea what they're doing and shouldn't be making appointments like this. Stop interfering 😡 What is mad about appointing a set piece specialist? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
east lower Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 3 hours ago, boratsbrother said: HIs time at Chelsea is panning out exactly how some of us said it would do when we signed him. He was always a pace merchant who relied heavily on having top class players carving open defences and laying on tons of simple chances for him to tap in. As we saw on Monday when he was put through for what would once have been a simple one on one with the keeper, he no longer has the pace fo leave the defenders behind and that in the end cost him a goal. He also doesn't have top quality teamates carving open defences for him for his regular tap ins at the far post. That is why he is now a bang average player being paid obscene wages way, way above his value to the team. Not as insufferable and poisonous as the ego monster but just as bad a signing for us. His speed has never been exceptional over 20 yards, but 0-10 yards is where his strength is in that aspect. He can still be dangerous with that big of skill and getting half a yard ahead over 5 yards. And he still does that. But he won’t run away from people over 25 yards, they can catch him. That’s why Pep played him as he did, in the opposition last third. Willing to let him go as he probably didn’t want players with those limitations. In bursts, he’s been ok but has quiet spells where he does look ordinary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaneB Posted March 14 Author Share Posted March 14 35 minutes ago, paulw66 said: What is mad about appointing a set piece specialist? Because the manager and his staff should be covering this. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sciatika Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 Presumably, the new set piece specialist will become a member of the coach's staff because, otherwise, I can't see it working out too well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Kelly Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 25 minutes ago, JaneB said: Because the manager and his staff should be covering this. Leave it out Jane there's only about twelve of them 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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