Miguelito07 Posted June 22, 2023 Share Posted June 22, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Mark Kelly said: Rumours abound that AC Milan are considering a £40m bid for .....Lukaku ! Imagine the hilarity where we screw Inter and Lukaku by giving Lukaku the opportunity to stay in Milan , just not the Milan who wont pay up ! Would love for this to be true - but cant see it happening. Cant remember an Italian team spending that amount of money on a player. If anything, I think it will be a loan (again) Edited June 22, 2023 by Miguelito07 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Kelly Posted June 22, 2023 Share Posted June 22, 2023 9 minutes ago, Miguelito07 said: Would love for this to be true - but cant see it happening. Cant remember an Italian team spending that amount of money on a player. If anything, I think it will be a loan (again) I don't know the ins and out's of it but apparently they have the funds as they've just sold someone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Singleton Posted June 22, 2023 Share Posted June 22, 2023 22 minutes ago, asvaberg said: Why? From May 2022 when the new format was announced:https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/61388244 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martin1905 Posted June 22, 2023 Share Posted June 22, 2023 This is what the 'first group stage' will look like. All the teams thrown together in one big league where everyone will play 8 games. Top 8 automatically qualify. 9th-24th play two legged play offs to see which other 8 teams qualify Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xceleryx Posted June 22, 2023 Share Posted June 22, 2023 36 minutes ago, Mark Kelly said: I don't know the ins and out's of it but apparently they have the funds as they've just sold someone Tonali hasn't been sold yet. Even if he is, their new ownership. which are completely f-ing the club over after the good work Maldini did, are looking like turning the club into a model of buy low, sell high. If that does indeed pan out I cannot see them spending £40m. Which by the way would be their highest ever transfer fee paid, eclipsing the €42m they paid for Bonucci (roughly £37m). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xceleryx Posted June 22, 2023 Share Posted June 22, 2023 (edited) Not directly related to us however may have a knock on effect. Man City are bidding for Rice, which may then push Arsenal towards Caicedo and in turn hampering us. Edit. They're also reportedly close to verbally agreeing terms with Gvardiol. What a way to strengthen after winning the treble should all these eventuate. Edited June 22, 2023 by xceleryx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarefreeMuratcan Posted June 22, 2023 Share Posted June 22, 2023 56 minutes ago, thevelourfog said: Format of the competition has been rejigged (next year is the last in its current form) and it's had implications for qualification that means leagues with high coefficients will have more qualifiers. Can't remember the specifics beyond that. The cynical answer, though, is "because of the Super League". The Top 2 performing leagues in Europe in that individual season, will get an extra CL place each. In the last couple of seasons England has been there. So all being well 5th will get CL this season. Only problem is, this season there are 3 teams completely new to Europe, 1 team completely new to the CL, 1 team back in the CL after a season in the EL, 1 team likely to not take Europa League seriously and a team that finished 14th in the EL. Basically Manchester City are the only team I expect to help the coefficient this season. Re: the teams completely new to Europe, it's not just their inexperience that is going to hinder them. But they are all going to be in low pots for the draws, so will likely have very challenging groups to negotiate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarefreeMuratcan Posted June 22, 2023 Share Posted June 22, 2023 30 minutes ago, martin1905 said: This is what the 'first group stage' will look like. All the teams thrown together in one big league where everyone will play 8 games. Top 8 automatically qualify. 9th-24th play two legged play offs to see which other 8 teams qualify The idea of a single league table where you play a variety of teams either home or away is good. The increase to 8 games is ok, not ideal, but ok. The bad part is how you can finish 24th and still qualify. I think UEFA is hoping that Top 8 skipping a knockout round will be enough motivation to make it interesting, but I feel like too many teams are going to be comfortable once they know they have at least 24th wrapped up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ham Posted June 22, 2023 Share Posted June 22, 2023 Haven't we already qualified for the CL for the first year of the new format? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Singleton Posted June 22, 2023 Share Posted June 22, 2023 16 minutes ago, Ham said: Haven't we already qualified for the CL for the first year of the new format? You're thinking of the new Club World Cup formathttps://www.fifa.com/fifaplus/en/articles/fifa-club-world-cup-2025-dates-format-and-qualifiers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Kelly Posted June 22, 2023 Share Posted June 22, 2023 15 minutes ago, Ham said: Haven't we already qualified for the CL for the first year of the new format? I thought that too , a legacy qualification as we are recent winners . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
My Blood Is Blue Posted June 22, 2023 Author Share Posted June 22, 2023 Man City entering the race to sign Rice, will that push Arsenal back into the race to sign Caicedo? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thevelourfog Posted June 22, 2023 Share Posted June 22, 2023 21 minutes ago, My Blood Is Blue said: Man City entering the race to sign Rice, will that push Arsenal back into the race to sign Caicedo? I don't think we're signing Caicedo whoever else is involved. Think Levi Colwill will just be too much of a sticking point between the clubs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
east lower Posted June 22, 2023 Share Posted June 22, 2023 30 minutes ago, My Blood Is Blue said: Man City entering the race to sign Rice, will that push Arsenal back into the race to sign Caicedo? Might do, but this seems a classic case of don't let your closest opposition strengthen - target their targets, just like we did from 2003 to 2008 ish. 8 minutes ago, thevelourfog said: I don't think we're signing Caicedo whoever else is involved. Think Levi Colwill will just be too much of a sticking point between the clubs. Money talks, whoever offers the most will get the best shot at getting him signed - assuming personal terms are favourable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelsea_Matt Posted June 22, 2023 Share Posted June 22, 2023 54 minutes ago, thevelourfog said: I don't think we're signing Caicedo whoever else is involved. Think Levi Colwill will just be too much of a sticking point between the clubs. I agree. I don’t think we are either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floyd25 Posted June 22, 2023 Share Posted June 22, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, thevelourfog said: I don't think we're signing Caicedo whoever else is involved. Think Levi Colwill will just be too much of a sticking point between the clubs. Which is why I said it’s a shame we didn’t Ugarte, because we’re not getting Rice either and the list of top available DMs becomes smaller, not even sure who we’d go for. Edited June 22, 2023 by Floyd25 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Kelly Posted June 22, 2023 Share Posted June 22, 2023 1 hour ago, thevelourfog said: I don't think we're signing Caicedo whoever else is involved. Think Levi Colwill will just be too much of a sticking point between the clubs. I don't want to play Brightons get rich quick game to be honest so I don't really want him. There has to be a decent defensive midfielder who is available for half of the £100m Brighton want to fleece us for. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelsea_Matt Posted June 22, 2023 Share Posted June 22, 2023 We need some brute from Scandyland or Eastern Europe who will just win the ball and not take any shit off anyone! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flinkers Posted June 22, 2023 Share Posted June 22, 2023 1 hour ago, Mark Kelly said: I don't want to play Brightons get rich quick game to be honest so I don't really want him. There has to be a decent defensive midfielder who is available for half of the £100m Brighton want to fleece us for. Edson Alvarez from Ajax, who we were looking at earlier this year, can be had for ca. €40m. Dortmund are negotiating with them at the moment. Seems to to be a decent enough player. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exiledblue Posted June 22, 2023 Share Posted June 22, 2023 9 hours ago, martin1905 said: This is what the 'first group stage' will look like. All the teams thrown together in one big league where everyone will play 8 games. Top 8 automatically qualify. 9th-24th play two legged play offs to see which other 8 teams qualify Can imagine which 8 games RM and Barca will get...not that I am doubting UEFA honesty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kev61 Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 17 hours ago, My Blood Is Blue said: if he really loved the club then he’d find a way to make this work. Players don't "love" clubs anymore(how romantic) they are commodities to be traded. We got screwed and paid over the odds for our commodities and our stock value plunged. We have a chance now to recoup some of the money we wasted thanks to the Arabs. Mount has nothing to answer for, he is just part of the greed that exists in everyday life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kev61 Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 19 hours ago, Chelsea_Matt said: Unlike Fat Rom himself 🤣 Wearing a bit "thin" there was a joke there😥 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kev61 Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 18 hours ago, BMox81 said: Mount’s mind has been poisoned? Come on now. If he truly wanted to stay then he’d have signed whatever deal Chelsea offered him. Utd have clearly offered him more and he’s taken the bag. Nothing wrong in that. But if he had anything about him, after his miserable efforts last season (injury aside) he’d want to make amends and leave on a high if that’s what he still ultimately wanted. But no, he clearly wants to fuck off and the club should therefore cash in. He's 24 ffs and the world is his lobster.A very susceptible mind don't you think?. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Tucker Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 6 minutes ago, kev61 said: He's 24 ffs and the world is his lobster.A very susceptible mind don't you think?. This. I don't want to lose Mount, but there are worse things happening in the world. if he really wants out, then say goodbye and move on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kev61 Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 11 minutes ago, Michael Tucker said: This. I don't want to lose Mount, but there are worse things happening in the world. if he really wants out, then say goodbye and move on. Exactly.Some people think players should be like brethren,they aren't. The hairs on the back of my neck would rise when I watched george best and charlie cooke play. Today's lot are like my libido - uninterested and dysfunctional(too much information I know). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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