ROTG Posted July 4, 2023 Share Posted July 4, 2023 4 hours ago, xceleryx said: He could just as easily end up a financial pitfall. If that happens, you can get a Livramento doll and stick pins in it, the same as you do did with Pulisic doll except now you use knives on his doll. 😀 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgs Posted July 4, 2023 Share Posted July 4, 2023 (edited) Funny how every time two clubs are in talks to sign a player and the potential buyer wont cough up what the seller is asking for, regular as clockwork, sure as the sunrise, we are linked in the media with the player. Even if, in this case, it makes no sense whatsoever for us to sign him. I'm sure Newcastle aren't that daft to fall for that old chestnut. ....unless Kyle Walker is leaving Man City and they are after Reece James? But if that were the case then we would not be loaning Livramento back to Southampton would we? Edited July 4, 2023 by Morgs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xceleryx Posted July 4, 2023 Share Posted July 4, 2023 53 minutes ago, ROTG said: If that happens, you can get a Livramento doll and stick pins in it, the same as you do did with Pulisic doll except now you use knives on his doll. 😀 No need, I've got my ROTG doll that comes with its own tin foil hat and TBSD tinted glasses. 😉 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martin1905 Posted July 4, 2023 Share Posted July 4, 2023 I don't know who this guy is but apparently he's become pretty reliable regarding our transfers in the past year or so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgs Posted July 4, 2023 Share Posted July 4, 2023 Him, Santos and Enzo in a midfield three. If Santos is as good as they say he is, we might be okay. Gallagher and Chukwuemeka provide good depth. I'm quite happy with that. The thing about Caicedo is he is an interception and pressing machine which is the sort of profile Poch loves in his screening midfielders. Still think we need a keeper and a top striker and possibly a right side winger but I don't think we are far off if we can get this over the line. Applause from my side for (if this is true) getting it done early doors and not having it drag on all summer and denying him a good pre-season. We used to do that all the time and it narked me every time. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelsea_Matt Posted July 4, 2023 Share Posted July 4, 2023 4 hours ago, xceleryx said: No need, I've got my ROTG doll that comes with its own tin foil hat and TBSD tinted glasses. 😉 I have to say, @ROTG is a good man - he gives it out but takes it in good spirits too. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Original 21 Posted July 4, 2023 Share Posted July 4, 2023 Another Brazilian “wonder kid” we’ve been scouting… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgs Posted July 4, 2023 Share Posted July 4, 2023 10 minutes ago, Original 21 said: Another Brazilian “wonder kid” we’ve been scouting… Never heard of him. Is he any good? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xceleryx Posted July 4, 2023 Share Posted July 4, 2023 More good news; Hudson-Odoi wants to leave. https://theathletic.com/4665051/2023/07/04/chelsea-transfer-hudson-odoi?source=user-shared-article 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thevelourfog Posted July 4, 2023 Share Posted July 4, 2023 18 minutes ago, Original 21 said: Another Brazilian “wonder kid” we’ve been scouting… Might be misunderstanding his TransferMarkt page, or guess that might be inaccurate, but it reads as if he's played only 3 friendlies for the Brazil U20s, and only made 27 senior appearances. That it seems vanishingly unlikely to me he is ready for senior PL football might be cynicism and just my opinion, but surely he has no hopes of getting a work permit anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulw66 Posted July 4, 2023 Share Posted July 4, 2023 6 minutes ago, thevelourfog said: Might be misunderstanding his TransferMarkt page, or guess that might be inaccurate, but it reads as if he's played only 3 friendlies for the Brazil U20s, and only made 27 senior appearances. That it seems vanishingly unlikely to me he is ready for senior PL football might be cynicism and just my opinion, but surely he has no hopes of getting a work permit anyway. Only 12 out of 27 were starts too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROTG Posted July 4, 2023 Share Posted July 4, 2023 45 minutes ago, xceleryx said: More good news; Hudson-Odoi wants to leave. Just makes things easier for Madueke to be on the list for 1st team selection 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Kelly Posted July 4, 2023 Share Posted July 4, 2023 6 minutes ago, ROTG said: Just makes things easier for Madueke to be on the list for 1st team selection No , his talent does that. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chara Posted July 4, 2023 Share Posted July 4, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, xceleryx said: More good news; Hudson-Odoi wants to leave. https://theathletic.com/4665051/2023/07/04/chelsea-transfer-hudson-odoi?source=user-shared-article I think I suffer from an inbuilt rose tinted glasses approach to the "Academy" graduates.. Unfortunately my formative Chelsea years exposed me to some amazing youth setup graduates and I start with the very naive expectation of every "annointed" next star achieving that status despite cold harsh reality which proves time and time again to be a false premise! CHO with 20/20 was overhyped (who'd have thought?) and had/.has a less than healthy..to my mind..disagree as you see fit...attitude to the game and the very prevalent, among many, entitlement syndrome.... in fairness he had a serious injury issue but the club took care of him .... not happy to see him gone but not really bothered....had he fufilled the probably unrealistic promise assigned to him maybe I would feel differently but then had that been the case he would not be the subject of this post. Aside..is it me or does it seem that when "family" members act as a players agent things get messy?..just wondering. Edited July 4, 2023 by chara 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Original 21 Posted July 4, 2023 Share Posted July 4, 2023 I guess this means Pulisic won’t be going to Lyon then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miguelito07 Posted July 4, 2023 Share Posted July 4, 2023 1 minute ago, Original 21 said: I guess this means Pulisic won’t be going to Lyon then. I think his heart was always set on Meeeeeelan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chara Posted July 4, 2023 Share Posted July 4, 2023 18 minutes ago, Miguelito07 said: I think his heart was always set on Meeeeeelan And his head in Meennissota,,MEmphis...Messouri..Mew York.....SB for a rest and injury treatment! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bones Posted July 4, 2023 Share Posted July 4, 2023 Whats happening with Colwil, Casadei, Santos? are they likely starters yet? I get a feeling Casadei deserves to be in the 1st team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ham Posted July 4, 2023 Share Posted July 4, 2023 4 minutes ago, Bones said: Whats happening with Colwil, Casadei, Santos? are they likely starters yet? I get a feeling Casadei deserves to be in the 1st team He's certainly worthy of a squad place. Not sure on him being a starter just yet. He's most definitely got a sweet strike on him for his young years. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelsea_Matt Posted July 4, 2023 Share Posted July 4, 2023 1 hour ago, chara said: I think I suffer from an inbuilt rose tinted glasses approach to the "Academy" graduates.. Unfortunately my formative Chelsea years exposed me to some amazing youth setup graduates and I start with the very naive expectation of every "annointed" next star achieving that status despite cold harsh reality which proves time and time again to be a false premise! CHO with 20/20 was overhyped (who'd have thought?) and had/.has a less than healthy..to my mind..disagree as you see fit...attitude to the game and the very prevalent, among many, entitlement syndrome.... in fairness he had a serious injury issue but the club took care of him .... not happy to see him gone but not really bothered....had he fufilled the probably unrealistic promise assigned to him maybe I would feel differently but then had that been the case he would not be the subject of this post. Aside..is it me or does it seem that when "family" members act as a players agent things get messy?..just wondering. Totally agree. Re his injury you’re also right and people imo should acknowledge that he was looked after. I remember in Lampard’s contract talks, Jose saying Lamps had been great for Chelsea, but equally Chelsea had been great for him too! As for family members as agents. I can’t even imagine how hard that must be to deal with, some greedy, amateur wasteman cousin or something. Awful. 🤣 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Singleton Posted July 4, 2023 Share Posted July 4, 2023 56 minutes ago, Bones said: Whats happening with Colwil, Casadei, Santos? are they likely starters yet? I get a feeling Casadei deserves to be in the 1st team Regarding Colwill, according to various media, he wants to sit down with Pochettino and discuss "his future". Given the season he had on loan at Brighton, he wants "assurances" he'll get game time at Chelsea before committing to signing a new contract (current one expires in June 2025). He doesn't want another loan. He feels he's ready to start, either at CFC or back at Brighton (who would dearly love to sign him on a permanent basis). As for Casadei and Santos, reports suggest that while both might be included in the squad, the more likely scenario is that only one (Santos) may end up there come the start of the season, while a loan at a top PL or Italian club is being looked at for Casadei. I'm presuming that the thinking behind this strategy is that Santos needs to integrate/familiarise himself with both the club and English culture (since signing, he's been in Brazil almost all the time) and that will be better done at Cobham under the supervision of the club's coaches and pastoral care team. Casadei had six months with the development squad, six months on loan at Reading and is now ready to be tested at a higher level. 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
east lower Posted July 4, 2023 Share Posted July 4, 2023 2 hours ago, Bones said: ……,I get a feeling Casadei deserves to be in the 1st team He’s looked the business in ‘age-group’ football……but his game time at Reading probably showed there’s a bit more for him to learn at senior level. BUT, sometimes you have to get a younger player in with the better senior pros to challenge them again and continue their progression. Also, he was in a Reading team in free fall at that time. Dare I whisper it, he’s got a bit of Frank Lampard about his play? Thoughts anyone who has seen more of him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Original 21 Posted July 4, 2023 Share Posted July 4, 2023 Strikers update… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelsea_Matt Posted July 4, 2023 Share Posted July 4, 2023 2 minutes ago, Original 21 said: Strikers update… Aren’t Nkunku and Jacko our strikers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Original 21 Posted July 4, 2023 Share Posted July 4, 2023 2 minutes ago, Chelsea_Matt said: Aren’t Nkunku and Jacko our strikers? Rumour is we’re in the market for an “elite” no. 9 as focal point of the attack. I think Nkunku will play off the centre forward and Jackson is seen as one for the future. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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