chara Posted July 4, 2023 Share Posted July 4, 2023 Just a question...on the "other" Chelsea fan sites is there the same pretty much across the board reaction as on our forum? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleeping Dave Posted July 4, 2023 Share Posted July 4, 2023 Not even going to watch it. He’s gone. We can argue all day long who’s fault it is. But he’s gone. Onwards and upwards. Reece James for Captain. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Tucker Posted July 4, 2023 Share Posted July 4, 2023 2 minutes ago, Sleeping Dave said: Not even going to watch it. He’s gone. We can argue all day long who’s fault it is. But he’s gone. Onwards and upwards. Reece James for Captain. This. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chara Posted July 5, 2023 Share Posted July 5, 2023 7 minutes ago, Sleeping Dave said: Not even going to watch it. He’s gone. We can argue all day long who’s fault it is. But he’s gone. Onwards and upwards. Reece James for Captain. Me too...read a little on the click bait edge page.....ridiculous money quoted....Onward and hope the new kids help get the nasty taste out of my mouth for one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xceleryx Posted July 5, 2023 Share Posted July 5, 2023 2 hours ago, martin1905 said: @xceleryx your thoughts on Vlahovic please mate. He was excellent at Fiorentina, who played a more open brand of football at the time. Whether it was linking play, moving into the channels, holding the ball up, or putting the ball in the back of the net he spearheaded the attack well. Since moving to Juventus he's not quite replicated everything at the same level particularly last season. There's been patches, but he's also struggled a lot more. Now, some of this rests on his own personal form having dropped and a few niggles interrupting things (missed near 100 days of football last season from memory), however playing under Allegri and his negative football has compounded matters further. The state of Juventus' midfield and supporting cast also hasn't helped. In a more dynamic side that plays a more positive brand of football I can see Vlahovic finding more of his Fiorentina form, but there's naturally that seed of doubt. He needs to work on his game still, his pressing for example is not a strong area. However, generally speaking he's got the size, strength, technique, and ability to be a telling player. He's also good from set pieces and the penalty spot, two thing we could probably use more options in - and competent in the air and with his back towards goal. Given the options available to us he'd be a good get at the right price, better than a lot of what else is out there right now. Still only 23 so fits into the age profile but also comes with plenty of experience at the senior level. If he's going to leave Juventus, or more accurately if Juventus are going to sell, then I'd certainly prefer him here than anywhere else. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xceleryx Posted July 5, 2023 Share Posted July 5, 2023 4 hours ago, chara said: Just a question...on the "other" Chelsea fan sites is there the same pretty much across the board reaction as on our forum? From what I've seen, yes. There's been a real ironic emphasis on "Money Mase". IMO it was a fairly piss poor "goodbye" video. Hope those extra p's he'll be collecting weekly will be worth flushing the 18 years of support he's gotten here, he'll not get the leeway at Man Utd with being just another player. The petty defender in me hopes RJ absolutely steamrolls him when we cross paths next. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelsea_Matt Posted July 5, 2023 Share Posted July 5, 2023 (edited) The video is like a hostage reading a prepared statement. Anyway I’m not gonna waste any more time on this. As @chara said so well, many former players who respected the club have always had a generous reception back at SB, and rightly so. I don’t think Mount deserves any personal abuse whatsoever, but he doesn’t deserve the warmth of the SB faithful either. Edited July 5, 2023 by Chelsea_Matt 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROTG Posted July 5, 2023 Share Posted July 5, 2023 15 hours ago, Mark Kelly said: No , his talent does that. The talent of only playing in the cloggy league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kev61 Posted July 5, 2023 Share Posted July 5, 2023 6 minutes ago, Chelsea_Matt said: The video is like a hostage reading a prepared statement. Anyway I’m not gonna waste any more time on this. As @chara said so well, many former players who respected the club have always had a generous reception back at SB, and rightly so. I don’t think Mount deserves any personal abuse whatsoever, but he doesn’t deserve the warmth of the SB faithful either. I think Mount has factored in all the conseqences of his decision. Being booed a few times a year is nothing he can't handle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelsea_Matt Posted July 5, 2023 Share Posted July 5, 2023 38 minutes ago, kev61 said: I think Mount has factored in all the conseqences of his decision. Being booed a few times a year is nothing he can't handle. I couldn’t care less - I’m just expressing my view. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Kelly Posted July 5, 2023 Share Posted July 5, 2023 40 minutes ago, ROTG said: The talent of only playing in the cloggy league. I don't think CHO would get a game there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Kelly Posted July 5, 2023 Share Posted July 5, 2023 7 hours ago, chara said: Just a question...on the "other" Chelsea fan sites is there the same pretty much across the board reaction as on our forum? Universally despised on Reddit if it helps? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xceleryx Posted July 5, 2023 Share Posted July 5, 2023 54 minutes ago, Chelsea_Matt said: The video is like a hostage reading a prepared statement. Anyway I’m not gonna waste any more time on this. As @chara said so well, many former players who respected the club have always had a generous reception back at SB, and rightly so. I don’t think Mount deserves any personal abuse whatsoever, but he doesn’t deserve the warmth of the SB faithful either. How about the Ashley Cole treatment? Print out £100 notes with Mount's face on them and greet him with a confetti shower. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROTG Posted July 5, 2023 Share Posted July 5, 2023 5 minutes ago, Mark Kelly said: I don't think CHO would get a game there He probably won’t because he will more than likely be playing in the PL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROTG Posted July 5, 2023 Share Posted July 5, 2023 4 minutes ago, xceleryx said: How about the Ashley Cole treatment? Print out £100 notes with Mount's face on them and greet him with a confetti shower. For someone who was not his greatest supporter, you seem to be taking his moving on with a lot of bitterness 😀 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xceleryx Posted July 5, 2023 Share Posted July 5, 2023 1 minute ago, ROTG said: He probably won’t because he will more than likely be playing in the PL Where he'll continue to thrive as a limited footballer now that he doesn't have the burst of pace that made him somewhat exciting to begin with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROTG Posted July 5, 2023 Share Posted July 5, 2023 51 minutes ago, kev61 said: I think Mount has factored in all the conseqences of his decision. Being booed a few times a year is nothing he can't handle. You missed out ex-Chelsea players customary goal at SB 😀 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xceleryx Posted July 5, 2023 Share Posted July 5, 2023 1 minute ago, ROTG said: For someone who was not his greatest supporter, you seem to be taking his moving on with a lot of bitterness 😀 I was actually a big supporter of Mount, in fact I've defended him quite a bit back on the old forum in his own thread. But alas, I'm also content with him getting Totti'ed by whoever wants to take up the Paolo Montero role. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asvaberg Posted July 5, 2023 Share Posted July 5, 2023 2 minutes ago, xceleryx said: I was actually a big supporter of Mount, in fact I've defended him quite a bit back on the old forum in his own thread. But alas, I'm also content with him getting Totti'ed by whoever wants to take up the Paolo Montero role. It's not a kind of football/fault I want anyone in Chelsea of committing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xceleryx Posted July 5, 2023 Share Posted July 5, 2023 Just now, asvaberg said: It's not a kind of football/fault I want anyone in Chelsea of committing. Maybe true, but as a defender that loved the niggle and some dark arts it's hard to resist at times. 😅 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Kelly Posted July 5, 2023 Share Posted July 5, 2023 15 minutes ago, ROTG said: He probably won’t because he will more than likely be playing in the PL Yeah , I expect Luton will be interested Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROTG Posted July 5, 2023 Share Posted July 5, 2023 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Mark Kelly said: Yeah , I expect Luton will be interested If the rumour mills are correct then it is Brentford and Forrest who are interested in his services. Regardless he will play more games in the PL next season than Madueke. Edited July 5, 2023 by ROTG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xceleryx Posted July 5, 2023 Share Posted July 5, 2023 Granted it's a YT highlights video, but this Matheus Franca looks interesting. Plenty of flair, strength, vision, work rate, technique, and an eye for goal. Doesn't look particularly rapid but quick enough to beat his man and get in behind when isolated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kev61 Posted July 5, 2023 Share Posted July 5, 2023 1 hour ago, Chelsea_Matt said: I couldn’t care less - I’m just expressing my view. Good for you and long may it continue. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martin1905 Posted July 5, 2023 Share Posted July 5, 2023 4 hours ago, xceleryx said: He was excellent at Fiorentina, who played a more open brand of football at the time. Whether it was linking play, moving into the channels, holding the ball up, or putting the ball in the back of the net he spearheaded the attack well. Since moving to Juventus he's not quite replicated everything at the same level particularly last season. There's been patches, but he's also struggled a lot more. Now, some of this rests on his own personal form having dropped and a few niggles interrupting things (missed near 100 days of football last season from memory), however playing under Allegri and his negative football has compounded matters further. The state of Juventus' midfield and supporting cast also hasn't helped. In a more dynamic side that plays a more positive brand of football I can see Vlahovic finding more of his Fiorentina form, but there's naturally that seed of doubt. He needs to work on his game still, his pressing for example is not a strong area. However, generally speaking he's got the size, strength, technique, and ability to be a telling player. He's also good from set pieces and the penalty spot, two thing we could probably use more options in - and competent in the air and with his back towards goal. Given the options available to us he'd be a good get at the right price, better than a lot of what else is out there right now. Still only 23 so fits into the age profile but also comes with plenty of experience at the senior level. If he's going to leave Juventus, or more accurately if Juventus are going to sell, then I'd certainly prefer him here than anywhere else. Thanks mate. I haven't seen much of him at Juventus but watched a fair bit of him at Fiorentina, where for his age he looked absolute outrageous. Clearly his love to Juventus hasn't quite worked out like anyone expected. He would be my second choice behind Kolo Muani, who I think is going to be special but I would be happy with either. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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