thevelourfog Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 30 minutes ago, Thiago97 said: I don't know, not sure on this . I caught a disagreement between Simon Jordan and that prat Keown on talksport recently, when I say caught I mean a Youtube video of their disagreement. I was left with the impression that Jordan has heard stories from the Boehly camp about the Tuchel sacking. He certainly implies during that discussion that he has been presented with a chain of events, not specifically football related , as to the reasons why Tuchel was sacked. I don't believe Jordan to come up with BS like that, its not his style. I suspect we will never really know in the public. He has clearly spent some time with the new ownership, I believe they were mixing in the same circles when out in Qatar for the WC. Of course, the narrative he has been fed may not be 100% accurate. The last bit is the rub, for me. He's getting his sources from the same people who did the briefing. I'm personally not going to put any stock in what he says unless he says it. Besides which, any falling out still doesn't explain why you're pushing a new contract all summer, buying a player with a specific relationship at the end of August, sacking the first week of September, and then claiming the sacking had been on the cards for ages. When was this falling out or problematic behaviour (asking rhetorically, I know you don't know). Doesn't add up even with Jordan's comments, imo. Been and done, just have to hope the decision making isn't as reactionary from now on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulw66 Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 22 hours ago, Ham said: I read that we were loaning him out and paying all of his wages. Surely that cannot be true. What's the motivation for us? 1. There could be a loan fee. 2. Bad apple. Get rid 3. Shop window. Playing is better than not playing if he and we want to find him a new club Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holymoly Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 So I hear dear old Todd is off to Paris to discuss Neymar. Please tell me this is a joke? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
east lower Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Holymoly said: So I hear dear old Todd is off to Paris to discuss Neymar. Please tell me this is a joke? I sincerely hope that TB wasn’t doing that. I watched the PSG v Bayern game last night and his lack of effort without the ball was nothing short of a disgrace. Edited February 15, 2023 by east lower Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trini_Blue Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 Maybe Boehly was just meeting PSG to smoothen over the fiasco with Ziyech. Neymar doesn't really fit their investment profile... I really can't see Neymar dealing with the physicality of the Premier League either. Or doing a year out of the UCL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Tucker Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 1 hour ago, Trini_Blue said: Maybe Boehly was just meeting PSG to smoothen over the fiasco with Ziyech. Maybe he wasn't 'meeting with' PSG at all? Maybe it was just more paper talk? Just a thought... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sciatika Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 Maybe he has never been up the Eiffel tower or lunched at Alex et Mika. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrankLampard8 Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 So... Vlahovic? Osimhen? Goncalo Ramos? Kolo Muani? Ivan Toney? Jonathan David? Literally anyone who might put the ball in the net... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROTG Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 16 minutes ago, FrankLampard8 said: So... Vlahovic? Osimhen? Goncalo Ramos? Kolo Muani? Ivan Toney? Jonathan David? Literally anyone who might put the ball in the net... Lukaku. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Kelly Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 Just now, ROTG said: Lukaku. It specifically said " Literally anyone who might put the ball in the net" I think that discount's Kebabku 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thiago97 Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 18 minutes ago, FrankLampard8 said: So... Vlahovic? Osimhen? Goncalo Ramos? Kolo Muani? Ivan Toney? Jonathan David? Literally anyone who might put the ball in the net... In bold.....the downside, by far the most difficult one to negotiate out of his club ! De Laurentiis is going to muller us on this deal, unless his contract is running low. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROTG Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 8 minutes ago, Mark Kelly said: It specifically said " Literally anyone who might put the ball in the net" I think that discount's Kebabku Mate time to loose the paranoia over the man. Regardless what he said or did not say the TT relationship. When the guy is fit and at his fighting weight he score goals, with the bottom line being, he is our player and nobody will take him this summer “wages being a part of the problem” therefore whoever the coach is in the summer will more than likely have to utilise him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Kelly Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 2 minutes ago, ROTG said: Mate time to loose the paranoia over the man. Regardless what he said or did not say the TT relationship. When the guy is fit and at his fighting weight he score goals, with the bottom line being, he is our player and nobody will take him this summer “wages being a part of the problem” therefore whoever the coach is in the summer will more than likely have to utilise him. When he loses the eight stone of flab that hinders his ability to move at more than a snails pace and for more than an inch at a time , I'll be fully behind us selling him to the lowest bidder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrankLampard8 Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 I don't know why I listed Goncalo Ramos... I doubt Benfica will be in a hurry to deal with us again any time soon and if they did they would want to have our pants down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xceleryx Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 55 minutes ago, FrankLampard8 said: So... Vlahovic? Osimhen? Goncalo Ramos? Kolo Muani? Ivan Toney? Jonathan David? Literally anyone who might put the ball in the net... Pretty grim reading really, would love a Christian Vieri or Hasselbaink personally. Vlahovic may be the easiest to get depending what transpires at Juve, but he's had some injury issues and is quite reliant on service. Osimhen will be 30 by the time ADL contemplates selling, even then you'll be looking at £100m still. Toney hinges on his betting situation, until that's sorted he's a red flag. The rest aren't particularly inspiring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Kelly Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 If the Mount situation isn't sorted soon I can see him being used to keep the Felix price doable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrankLampard8 Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 25 minutes ago, Mark Kelly said: If the Mount situation isn't sorted soon I can see him being used to keep the Felix price doable. He has been a breath of fresh air (I think I love him a little bit already) but he needs to tuck away his chances if he's going to justify his undoubtedly massive fee. I think the first one was actually quite difficult around the player in to a small area but I think he has to score the second last night when he hit the bar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thiago97 Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 17 minutes ago, FrankLampard8 said: He has been a breath of fresh air (I think I love him a little bit already) but he needs to tuck away his chances if he's going to justify his undoubtedly massive fee. I think the first one was actually quite difficult around the player in to a small area but I think he has to score the second last night when he hit the bar. Felix has given me flashbacks of Zola a little. Zola never had his pace, but the way he manipulates the ball, drops off into pockets of space, and his ability and technique to receive the ball in tight areas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROTG Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 1 hour ago, Mark Kelly said: When he loses the eight stone of flab that hinders his ability to move at more than a snails pace and for more than an inch at a time , I'll be fully behind us selling him to the lowest bidder. You can call him whatever you like the bottom line is he scores goals. Which is something team GP seem unable to coach into the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Kelly Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 16 minutes ago, ROTG said: You can call him whatever you like the bottom line is he scores goals. Which is something team GP seem unable to coach into the team. Not for us he doesn't. It's Graham Potter not Harry , he's not a magician. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROTG Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 30 minutes ago, Mark Kelly said: Not for us he doesn't. It's Graham Potter not Harry , he's not a magician. Again. take the rose tinted glasses off. he did score goals until he got injured Not sure about team GP being magicians they are more akin to Redvers Potter. “One for the teenagers “ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrankLampard8 Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 It's funny this has come up because I was thinking to myself the other day, wasn't Lukaku sort of OK up until he got injured and then did that stupid interview? Everyone acts like it was an unmitigated disaster, which it was, but I don't know if it was for footballing reasons. I personally wouldn't ever want him back after the way he treated the club however, we've had much worse flops on the pitch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chara Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 5 hours ago, FrankLampard8 said: He has been a breath of fresh air (I think I love him a little bit already) but he needs to tuck away his chances if he's going to justify his undoubtedly massive fee. I think the first one was actually quite difficult around the player in to a small area but I think he has to score the second last night when he hit the bar. I think that too was harder than it looked...he had to get lift on the ball and a fraction lower and it's a great goal. I felt it was a different sort of "Can't buy a goal" game than we have seen in the past...genuine bad luck and absolutely no rub of the green..that of course went to Borussia...terrific break and goal though it was and against that passage of the game...but that's football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martin1905 Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 11 minutes ago, chara said: I think that too was harder than it looked...he had to get lift on the ball and a fraction lower and it's a great goal. I felt it was a different sort of "Can't buy a goal" game than we have seen in the past...genuine bad luck and absolutely no rub of the green..that of course went to Borussia...terrific break and goal though it was and against that passage of the game...but that's football. We were unlucky rather than hopeless in front of goal so agree with your assessment, however the goal we conceded, as well as the kid done is an absolutely shocking goal to concede. Pure schoolboy stuff. I actually thought Kepa could have been quicker off his line and more assertive/aggressive, be interested to hear your take on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chara Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 1 minute ago, martin1905 said: We were unlucky rather than hopeless in front of goal so agree with your assessment, however the goal we conceded, as well as the kid done is an absolutely shocking goal to concede. Pure schoolboy stuff. I actually thought Kepa could have been quicker off his line and more assertive/aggressive, be interested to hear your take on it. Agree it was schoolboy stuff but at an amazing pace and a classic smash and grab, I haven't looked back at the goal but I remember at the time thinking Kepa didn't get it quite right although hard to blame him for the goal. Kepa has never been a "charge the cannons" keeper unlike Mendy on his game..just not his style..during his wandering in the wilderness time I gave up on him for what I considered (easy to do from the couch!) a terrible effort against, strangely enough Soton...came out and totally mis stepped trying to block an effort with his legs when he should have ..imho...just got down hard and fast at the attacker's feet...but that reflects my modest game and "style" so..... He does look a far better keeper now especially if you can put aside the ridiculous price tag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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