Mark Kelly Posted August 11, 2023 Share Posted August 11, 2023 3 minutes ago, Morgs said: You are definitely someone who sees the world the same way I do. It's experience . I'm still not convinced the league isn't rigged every year by Sky the PGMOL and the Premier League to ensure it remains exciting and competitive and is the "best" product they can sell on. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelsea_Matt Posted August 11, 2023 Share Posted August 11, 2023 26 minutes ago, Bert19 said: You're going to LOVE Carragher's tweets Nothing like entitled, spluttering Scouse rage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelsea_Matt Posted August 11, 2023 Share Posted August 11, 2023 6 minutes ago, Mark Kelly said: It's experience . I'm still not convinced the league isn't rigged every year by Sky the PGMOL and the Premier League to ensure it remains exciting and competitive and is the "best" product they can sell on. But they love Arsenal and look what happened last season. I’m not saying there isn’t bias against us since we upset the apple cart in 2005, but I don’t think it’s fixed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thevelourfog Posted August 11, 2023 Share Posted August 11, 2023 Contrary to any previous posts, I am very much in support of anything humiliating Liverpool, even if we look a bit stupid in the process. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Original 21 Posted August 11, 2023 Share Posted August 11, 2023 Update on where things stand… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulw66 Posted August 11, 2023 Share Posted August 11, 2023 4 minutes ago, Chelsea_Matt said: But they love Arsenal and look what happened last season. I’m not saying there isn’t bias against us since we upset the apple cart in 2005, but I don’t think it’s fixed. Arsenal choked it, they didn't get bad decisions. Every time Arsenal were losing, the +8 or +9 went up at The Emirates. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
My Blood Is Blue Posted August 11, 2023 Author Share Posted August 11, 2023 5 minutes ago, Original 21 said: Update on where things stand… They do realise Caicedo is well within his rights to just decline the offer from Liverpool, don't they? It's such a mess. Why didn't Liverpool just stay out of it? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Morgs Posted August 11, 2023 Share Posted August 11, 2023 4 minutes ago, Mark Kelly said: It's experience . I'm still not convinced the league isn't rigged every year by Sky the PGMOL and the Premier League to ensure it remains exciting and competitive and is the "best" product they can sell on. I have seen too many VAR "mistakes" and Reffing "errors" to take the view that "it all balances out" and that there is no agenda. I think the larger part of it is the power of the media and the desire of the officials to be centre of attention and to cause drama. I also think (charitably, I would say this is mainly subconscious) that Refs read the papers like everyone else and are aware of the "good vs bad" divide. It cannot help but influence their decisions. Its human. The real question is how far over the subconscious influence does the "good vs bad" agenda extend? I also think there is an element of outright cheating too. Match fixing. Betting syndicates in China and so on. I am 100% convinced it goes on. I refuse to accept til the day I die that there is no agenda, because there absolutely is. No rational, sane person can watch the title win Liverpool had during COVID and say with a straight face that they did not benefit inordinately from a whole string of puzzling refereeing decisions in absolutely key areas. It doesn't balance out. There was an inertia. That's all I can describe it as. The constant reminding that these millions of "neutrals" (who? I've never met one!!) all want to see Liverpool win it because they deserve it and because they have such a storied history etc. Everything EVERYTHING went their way. Some was luck, some was other teams just folding when they were playing them because they didn't fancy it and were caught up in the hype as well or had their own issues, but some of it was deliberate, preordained and premediated. I cannot and will not accept that this wasn't the case. I don't think it is as overt and all-powerful as some of the wilder conspiracy theories like to make out but I do think it is a multi-faceted beast and that the betting syndicates have vastly more power over results than people realise. There seems to be this arrogance that "it could never happen in the Prem, it could never happen in England" as if we haven't had match fixing trials before, and as if Serie A hasn't been riddled with it from top to bottom for a decade or more that we know of. It would seem churlish and naïve to suggest it cannot happen and isn't happening here. Question is just to what extent. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChelseaJambo Posted August 11, 2023 Share Posted August 11, 2023 Would LOVE us to bid again but at £95m and leave everyone else to thrash it out. Brighton either stuck with a player who wants to leave or Liverpool signing a player everyone knew wanted to join Chelsea at an astronomical fee. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Original 21 Posted August 11, 2023 Share Posted August 11, 2023 1 minute ago, My Blood Is Blue said: They do realise Caicedo is well within his rights to just decline the offer from Liverpool, don't they? It's such a mess. Why didn't Liverpool just stay out of it? This is what I don’t get. Why do Brighton think they can strike a deal that only suits them but not the player? It’s like they want to screw us over first and don’t give a toss what the player wants. They really are a shitty little club. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ham Posted August 11, 2023 Share Posted August 11, 2023 Off topic but watching pressers on SSN, is there a more punchable face in football right now than that smug shit Arteta? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Kelly Posted August 11, 2023 Share Posted August 11, 2023 3 minutes ago, Ham said: Off topic but watching pressers on SSN, is there a more punchable face in football right now than that smug shit Arteta? When he's bought another keeper for silly money , has spent and spent again and they don't win jack , it will make it all the more hilarious when they sack him. A poor mans Roberto Martinez If was made of ice cream he'd lick himself to death 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
My Blood Is Blue Posted August 11, 2023 Author Share Posted August 11, 2023 19 minutes ago, Ham said: Off topic but watching pressers on SSN, is there a more punchable face in football right now than that smug shit Arteta? Nope, not that I know of anyway. I cannot stand the smug little git! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelsea_Matt Posted August 11, 2023 Share Posted August 11, 2023 39 minutes ago, paulw66 said: Arsenal choked it, they didn't get bad decisions. Every time Arsenal were losing, the +8 or +9 went up at The Emirates. Yeah. I’m saying it wasn’t fixed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Kelly Posted August 11, 2023 Share Posted August 11, 2023 I think if we get Caicedo we absolutely must also get Adams just to ensure Brighton can't . F**K them. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chara Posted August 11, 2023 Share Posted August 11, 2023 4 hours ago, Mark Kelly said: Remember when we wanted to buy Kane or when we wanted to buy Modric? They refused to deal with us . I'm not as churlish as them , £ 100m and he's all yours. Mark..Chelsea can't afford to give Spuds that much to take Luka. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelsea_Matt Posted August 11, 2023 Share Posted August 11, 2023 45 minutes ago, Mark Kelly said: I think if we get Caicedo we absolutely must also get Adams just to ensure Brighton can't . F**K them. Then loan him to their rivals the Stripy Nigels for their clásico del aburrimiento - classic of boredom. 🤣 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ham Posted August 11, 2023 Share Posted August 11, 2023 I think the best outcome here, assuming that we get Caicedo, is that Brighton take one too many liberties/risks selling their best players and get relegated. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miguelito07 Posted August 11, 2023 Share Posted August 11, 2023 56 minutes ago, Mark Kelly said: I think if we get Caicedo we absolutely must also get Adams just to ensure Brighton can't . F**K them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chara Posted August 11, 2023 Share Posted August 11, 2023 Getting up to 102 pages of transfer angst has exhausted me! Media Buffoonery and it's "Greatest Hits"...I may have missed something but although there appears to be..I'm not sure though.. Liverpool comment throughout the Homer like saga I don't recall reading any official Brighton/Chelsea comments or figures...help me anyone? Oh and I feel justified in fast tracking @Morgs to the "Bad Boys" corner of the Forum..th😁anks M 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROTG Posted August 11, 2023 Share Posted August 11, 2023 07:00 - caicedo totally over priced and not worth the money, and good luck to him. 15:00 - best thing since sliced bread and what an accusation he would be. Bizarre 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martin1905 Posted August 11, 2023 Share Posted August 11, 2023 13 minutes ago, Miguelito07 said: Broken down by because we are getting Caicedo, Adams was clearly an alternative Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Original 21 Posted August 11, 2023 Share Posted August 11, 2023 Jamie Carragher is not bitter… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROTG Posted August 11, 2023 Share Posted August 11, 2023 15 minutes ago, Ham said: Brighton take one too many liberties/risks selling their best players and get relegated Regardless of the sales, they will be gone in the next couple seasons, and their chairman will be on the cover of Forbes. 😀 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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