Sleeping Dave Posted August 18, 2023 Share Posted August 18, 2023 The Lewis Hall news has ruined this whole window for me because it confirms my worst fear. Short-sighted. We will sell off the best academy players and pay lots of money to buy other teams players who aren’t any better. This is a model that will be detrimental long-term. This isn’t American franchise sports where the players affiliation to teams are rare. This is English football where fans wants to see the academy players rise through the ranks. We will rue this day. Perhaps even go back to Newcastle and buy him for big money. We can also be sure that the prospects we have in the academy will see that the trend continues. Expect more top talents to want to leave us due to how the club is run. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miguelito07 Posted August 18, 2023 Share Posted August 18, 2023 5 minutes ago, Sleeping Dave said: The Lewis Hall news has ruined this whole window for me because it confirms my worst fear. Short-sighted. We will sell off the best academy players and pay lots of money to buy other teams players who aren’t any better. This is a model that will be detrimental long-term. This isn’t American franchise sports where the players affiliation to teams are rare. This is English football where fans wants to see the academy players rise through the ranks. We will rue this day. Perhaps even go back to Newcastle and buy him for big money. We can also be sure that the prospects we have in the academy will see that the trend continues. Expect more top talents to want to leave us due to how the club is run. Lavia and Caicedo are better MFs than Hall - and we have Chilwell and Maatsen (and Cucurella unfortunately) as LBs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Kelly Posted August 18, 2023 Share Posted August 18, 2023 2 minutes ago, Sleeping Dave said: The Lewis Hall news has ruined this whole window for me because it confirms my worst fear. Short-sighted. We will sell off the best academy players and pay lots of money to buy other teams players who aren’t any better. This is a model that will be detrimental long-term. This isn’t American franchise sports where the players affiliation to teams are rare. This is English football where fans wants to see the academy players rise through the ranks. We will rue this day. Perhaps even go back to Newcastle and buy him for big money. We can also be sure that the prospects we have in the academy will see that the trend continues. Expect more top talents to want to leave us due to how the club is run. I semi agree with this , however the mitigation in this case is , unlike you me or everyone else here , he is a childhood Newcastle supporter , his entire family support Newcastle so like Mason "Home" Mount , he's probably following his own dreams rather than being driven out by the evil club who offered him a six year contract . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelsea_Matt Posted August 18, 2023 Share Posted August 18, 2023 Lavia signs on a seven-year deal! Welcome, Romeo! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asvaberg Posted August 18, 2023 Share Posted August 18, 2023 23 minutes ago, Chelsea_Matt said: Lavia signs on a seven-year deal! Welcome, Romeo! Indeed! 🙂 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xceleryx Posted August 18, 2023 Share Posted August 18, 2023 41 minutes ago, Sleeping Dave said: Of course every midfielder isn’t universal. But the difference between 4231 and 442 is very small. If you want to simplify it, just means one striker is slightly withdrawn to play between the lines. The midfield roles aren’t that much different, you still have one partner where the exact roles will depend on the partnership. You make it sound like a midfielder who has grown up playing 433/4231/343 or various versions of it, can’t play in the pivot. Honestly, how many games have you even seen Hall in midfield to make that call? Plus, the lad is 18 ffs. We’re not in the 70’s? No, but we are still talking about football. We're not talking formations though, rather generalised player positions and then the specific role which then encompasses that position depending on the managers system and approach. As an example Makelele was a midfielder in a general sense, with his specific role being that of a Holding Midfielder that was determined by his qualities, you certainly wouldn't pick him to play the role Lampard had as an #8. That's the larger point here with Hall. He's a midfielder in a general sense, which we both agree upon, but the type of midfielder based on his skillset displayed so far via his senior and youth level appearances (as a whole) don't translate to someone suitable for the roles that are held in the type of double pivot we play IMO. I don't look at him and see an out and out DM that'll hold the midfield and shield a defence, nor as a tempo setter like Enzo, or as a bonafide creator. I see his best place in midfield within a three man setup, ideally as that LCM. Where he can progress the ball via the dribble and make direct driving runs, two of his biggest offensive strengths. Either way it's all rather moot now given he's virtually been sold, so it's not a scenario we'll have to contend with moving forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xceleryx Posted August 18, 2023 Share Posted August 18, 2023 28 minutes ago, Chelsea_Matt said: Lavia signs on a seven-year deal! Welcome, Romeo! Good signing, but one I wouldn't be been hard pressed about not making either. That being said, he'll give us both suitable cover for Enzo and also allow us the additional flexibility to free Enzo up further to play closer to goal should we choose that direction. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelsea_Matt Posted August 18, 2023 Share Posted August 18, 2023 I think with the signings of Caidedo and Lavia we have the steel we desperately need in midfield - and the defence looks a lot more robust. Just get rid of you know who and we’ll be all set. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chiswickblue Posted August 18, 2023 Share Posted August 18, 2023 1 minute ago, Chelsea_Matt said: I think with the signings of Caidedo and Lavia we have the steel we desperately need in midfield - and the defence looks a lot more robust. Just get rid of you know who and we’ll be all set. Still to go: In: back-up GK, possibly another winger Out: Ziyech, Lukaku, CHO, Sarr, Anjorin, Cumming, Ugochukwu/Santos (loan) Losing Hall is a disaster and one we will regret, but hopefully it means that Chalobah and Gallagher stay for now. I guess Mason Burstow and Basir Humphreys are being kept around the squad pending the recoveries of Badiashile and Broja. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Kelly Posted August 18, 2023 Share Posted August 18, 2023 7 minutes ago, chiswickblue said: Still to go: In: back-up GK, possibly another winger Out: Ziyech, Lukaku, CHO, Sarr, Anjorin, Cumming, Ugochukwu/Santos (loan) Losing Hall is a disaster and one we will regret, but hopefully it means that Chalobah and Gallagher stay for now. I guess Mason Burstow and Basir Humphreys are being kept around the squad pending the recoveries of Badiashile and Broja. Humphreys is at Swansea on loan I believe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Singleton Posted August 18, 2023 Share Posted August 18, 2023 22 minutes ago, Mark Kelly said: Humphreys is at Swansea on loan I believe Swansea and Stoke are both very interested in taking him on loan, but he's currently still at Cobham training with the first team squad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chiswickblue Posted August 18, 2023 Share Posted August 18, 2023 23 minutes ago, Mark Kelly said: Humphreys is at Swansea on loan I believe It was strongly rumoured, like Hall to Palace, but didn't go through yet - some more late decisions being made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Kelly Posted August 18, 2023 Share Posted August 18, 2023 1 minute ago, Bob Singleton said: Swansea and Stoke are both very interested in taking him on loan, but he's currently still at Cobham training with the first team squad. 1 minute ago, chiswickblue said: It was strongly rumoured, like Hall to Palace, but didn't go through yet - some more late decisions being made. Ahh ok thanks chaps , thought that one had already been done Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurj SS Posted August 18, 2023 Share Posted August 18, 2023 While it may be a good idea to keep the squad trimmed with us having no European football, we really need another striker; imagine trying to name a lineup without Jackson in the team, I'm not sure even Poch would know who he'd play up top. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnybozo Posted August 18, 2023 Share Posted August 18, 2023 1 minute ago, Gurj SS said: While it may be a good idea to keep the squad trimmed with us having no European football, we really need another striker; imagine trying to name a lineup without Jackson in the team, I'm not sure even Poch would know who he'd play up top. Pigeon Boy Sterling probably. Which is a terrifyingly benign prospect for any PL defence to deal with 😂 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exiledblue Posted August 18, 2023 Share Posted August 18, 2023 2 hours ago, Sleeping Dave said: The Lewis Hall news has ruined this whole window for me because it confirms my worst fear. Short-sighted. We will sell off the best academy players and pay lots of money to buy other teams players who aren’t any better. This is a model that will be detrimental long-term. This isn’t American franchise sports where the players affiliation to teams are rare. This is English football where fans wants to see the academy players rise through the ranks. We will rue this day. Perhaps even go back to Newcastle and buy him for big money. We can also be sure that the prospects we have in the academy will see that the trend continues. Expect more top talents to want to leave us due to how the club is run. agree, its Todds fantasy football Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROTG Posted August 18, 2023 Share Posted August 18, 2023 2 hours ago, Miguelito07 said: Lavia and Caicedo are better MFs than Hall - both Lavia and Caicedo are the dreams of TBSD at the cost of £200m after one good season as was Cucurella Hall is about at least and a season behind them in experience, therefore you are trying to compare apples and oranges. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleeping Dave Posted August 18, 2023 Share Posted August 18, 2023 45 minutes ago, Gurj SS said: …we really need another striker; imagine trying to name a lineup without Jackson in the team, I'm not sure even Poch would know who he'd play up top. Sterling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Singleton Posted August 18, 2023 Share Posted August 18, 2023 21 hours ago, asvaberg said: Can't wait for Bob's updated-list 🙂 As always this is just a bit of fun. Info as correct as I can manage up to and including midday 18th August 2023 Anything in red is either a new rumour or a change in circumstances (such as new contract signed) since the last update (1st July). In most cases I've only noted the first rumour seen, but where a story changes (for example one claims a swap deal where no swap was in the original story) this has also been included. Blue represents players signed by Chelsea. Players greyed out and italicised have either signed contract extensions or signed for a new club. To avoid confusion, only transfers confirmed by either or both clubs are considered as official. Until then, they remain 'rumours' * Linked in Summer 2022 or January 2023 GOALKEEPERSRobert Sanchez * (Brighton & Hove Albion) - 1st Feb, Simon Philips (Twitter) - 31st July, (undisclosed) bid made, Andy Naylor, The Athletic - 5th August, Transfer confirmed TOCWSDavid Raya * (Brentford) - 1st Feb, Daily Express; 8th March, Fabrizio Romano (Twitter), - 30th April, TNT Sports Argentina via Fichajes (if Pochetino joins CFC) - 15th August, Loan to Arsenal confirmed Jordan Pickford * (Everton) - 5th Feb, Ben Jacobs (Twitter) Diogo Costa * (Porto) - 6th Feb, Simon Philips (Twitter) Yassine Bonou (Seville) - 13th Feb, Football Insider Gregor Kobel (Borussia Dortmund) - 2nd March, BlickAndre Onana (Inter Milan) [possible Mendy + cash swap] - 18th March, Inter Live & Fichajes [possible Kepa + cash swap] - 26th April, Gazzetto dello Sport [possible Chalobah & RL-C swap] - 30th April, Football London [straight purchase] - 5th May, Calciomercatoweb 20th July, Transfer to Manchester United ConfirmedIlan Meslier * (Leeds United) - 18th March, Football Insider - 30th May, Tuttomercatoweb (Relegation) Jan Oblak * (Atletico Madrid) - 21st March, Football Insider Dean Henderson (Manchester United) - 27th March, The Hard Tackle Giorgi Mamardashvili (Valencia) - 6th April, COPE.es Emiliano Martinez (Aston Villa) - 11th May, TyC Sports (via Daily Mail) Mike Maignon (AC Milan) - 13th May, Footmercato Wojciech Szczesny (Juventus) - 24th May, Calciomercatoweb Anatoliy Trubin (Shakhtar Donetsk) - 27th June, Fabrizio Romano, SubstackKasper Schmeichel (Nice) - 12th August, MetroDEFENDERSDenzel Dumfries * (Inter Milan) - 9th Feb, TuttoSport Joao Cancelo (Manchester City, was on loan at Bayern Munich) - 13th Feb, 90minMerih Demiral (Atalanta) - 1st March, FotomacJosko Gvardiol * (RB Leipzig) - 2nd March, The Times - 5th August, Transfer to Manchester City ConfirmedAlessandro Bastoni * (Inter Milan) - 29th March, Gazzetta dello Sport Alejandro Balde (Barcelona) - 31st March, Sport.es Mohammed Salisu (Southampton) - 3rd April, Football Fancast Antonio Silva (Benfica) - 7th April, Fichajes Ridle Baku * (VfL Wolfsburg) - 9th April, Christian Falk, Twitter Luka Vuskovic (Hajduk Split) [16 years old] - 25th April, Daily Mail Alex Moreno (Aston Villa) - 5th May, FootmercatoPau Torres * (Villareal) - 11th May, Daily Mirror - 3rd July, Transfer to Aston Villa ConfirmedKim Min-Jae (SSC Napoli) - 14th May, Il Mattino - 18th July, Transfer to Bayern Munich ConfirmedJules Koundé * (Barcelona) - 25th May, Sport.es Mikayil Faye (18, Senegal) (NK Kustosija, Croatia) - 6th June, Daily Mail Castello Lukeba (Olympique Lyonnais) - 10th June, But! (Fr) Alvaro Odriozola (Real Madrid) - 13th June, Mundo Deportivo (via Daily Express)Axel Disasi (AS Monaco) - 22nd June, RMC - 30th July , David Ornstein, The Athletic, fee agreed - 4th August, Transfer confirmed TOWSGleison Bremer * (Juventus) - 26th June, Daily Mail Rafa Marin (Real Madrid Castilla) - 28th June, Venê Casagrande, TwitterIshe Samuels-Smith (Everton) [17 years old] - 3rd July, Daily Mail - 8th July, Transfer confirmed TOCWSTino Livramento * (Southampton) - 3rd July, Daily Mail - 8th August, Transfer to Newcastle United confirmed Goncalo Inacio (Sporting CP) - 3rd July, Fichajes Aymeric Laporte (Manchester City) - 8th July, Ruy Galetti, Twitter Benjamin Pavard (Bayern Munich) - 13th July, Christian Falk, Sport Bild Marc Guehi (Crystal Palace) - 19th July, Evening Standard Luiz Felipe (Real Betis) - 21st July, Estadio Deportivo Tosin Adarabioyo (Fulham) - 24th July, Simon Phillips, Substack Ivan Fresneda (Real Valladolid) - 9th August, Sport.es MIDFIELDERSSofyan Amrabat (Fiorentina) - 1st Feb, Sport BibleDeclan Rice * (West Ham United) - 1st Feb, Adam Newson (Twitter) + various others - 15th July, Transfer to Arsenal ConfirmedRomeo Lavia * (Southampton) - 1st Feb, Daily Mail; 16th Feb, Simon Philips (Twitter); - 14th May, Daily Mail, Guardian, Telegraph & elsewhere after relegation - 18th August, Transfer Confirmed TOCWSMoises Caicedo * (Brighton & Hove Albion) - 9th Feb, Ben Jacobs (Twitter) - 2nd March, New Contract to 2027 +1 year on B&HA website - 14th May, Daily Mail, Rumours restart in earnest. No 1 target - 3rd June, cash + Colwill (loan), Simon Philips (Twitter) - 14th August, Transfer Confirmed TOCWSJude Bellingham * (Borussia Dortmund) - 15th Feb, Daily Telegraph - 14th June, Transfer to Real Madrid ConfirmedKendry Paez, (Independiente del Valle ECU) [15 years old] - 15th Feb, 90min; - 24th Feb, Fabrizio Romano (Twitter), Agreement to sign once 18yrs oldJames Maddison * (Leicester City) - 16th Feb, Ekrem Konur (Twitter) - 28th June, Transfer to Tottenham Hotspur ConfirmedGiannis Konstantelias (PAOK Salonika) - 20th Feb, Inside FutbolMarcelo Brozovic (Inter Milan) - 26th Feb, Gazzetta dello Sport, - 29th June, Transfer to Al Nassr ConfirmedYunus Musah (Valencia) - 1st March, MetroDominik Szoboszlai (RB Leipzig) - 3rd March, TuttoMercatoWeb - 2nd July, Transfer to Liverpool ConfirmedManu Koné (Borussia Monchengladbach) - 5th March, Christian Falk, Twitter and BILD Frenkie de Jong * (Barcelona) - 7th March, Fichajes Daichi Kamada (Borussia Dortmund) - 8th March, Daily Mail Bruno Guimaraes * (Newcastle United) - 10th March, Newcastle World Joao Palhinha (Fulham) - 13th March, The Sun Ethan Nwaneri (Arsenal) [15 years old] - 14th March, Daily Telegraph - 3rd April, Metro (Jack Wilshire interview) - 29th June, Signs Scholarship terms with ArsenalEdson Alvarez * (Ajax Amsterdam) - 14th March, De Telegraaf - 1st August, Rumours re-emerge, The TimesIbrahim Sangaré * (PSV Eindhoven) - 16th March, Twente InsiteAlexis Mac Allister * (Brighton & Hove Albion) - 25th March, ESPN - 7th June, Transfer to Liverpool ConfirmedNicolo Barella * (Inter Milan) - 9th April, Calciomercatoweb Gavi (Barcelona) - 11th April, Barca Blaugranes via AS Youssouf Fofana (AS Monaco) - 1st May, Daily MailManuel Ugarte (Sporting CP) - 3rd May, FootballTransfers - 30th May (cash + D Fofana on loan), Record Portugal - 7th July, Transfer to PSG ConfirmedIsmael Bennacer (AC Milan) - 4th May, CalciomercatowebKhephren Thuram (OGC Nice) - 8th May, Rudy Galetti, Twitter Pierre-Emile Hojbjerg (Tottenham Hotspur) - 14th May, Fichajes.es Stanislav Lobotka (SSC Napoli) - 17th May, Il Mattino Jean-Ricner Bellegarde (Strasbourg) - 20th May, Daily Express Ismael Doukoure (Strasbourg) - 20th May, Daily Express Habib Diarra (Strasbourg) - 20th May, Daily ExpressLeandro Paredes (PSG) - 24th May, ESPN - 16th August, Transfer to Roma confirmedJames Ward-Prowse * (Southampton) - 26th May, Football Transfers - 9th August, Transfer to West Ham United confirmedFederico Valverde (Real Madrid) - 1st June, SPORT.esGabri Veiga (Celta Vigo) - 6th June, The GuardianSergej Milinkovic-Savic * (Lazio) - 11th June, The Sun - 12th July, Transfer to Al Hilal ConfirmedAmadou Onana * (Everton) - 14th June, Sacha Tavolieri, TwitterSandro Tonali (AC Milan) - 16th June, David Ornstein, Twitter - 4th July, Transfer to Newcastle United ConfirmedRayan Cherki (Olympique Lyonnais) - 2nd July, Simon Phillips, Substack - 29th July, CFC withdraw interest due to “attitude”, Nathan Gissing Matheus Franca (Flamengo) – 3rd July, Daily Mail Marco Verratti * (PSG) - 19th July, Kaveh Solhekol, Sky SportsLesley Ugochukwu (Rennes) - 28th July, L'Equipe - 1st August, Transfer confirmed TOCWS Tyler Adams (Leeds United) - 1st August, Daily Mail Arsen Zakharyan * (Dinamo Moscow) - 2nd August, to Strasbourg (circumvent HMG sanctions?), Nizaar Kinsella, Evening Standard Kiernan Dewsbury-Hall (Leicester City) - 8th August, Simon Phillips (Substack)ATTACKERS Victor Osimhen * (SSC Napoli) - 4th Feb, Daily Mirror; 19th March [Swap deal – Pulisic] CalciomercatowebRafael Leao * (AC Milan) - 4th Feb, La Stampa; 20th Feb, Fichajes; - 10th May, 5 year contract extension, official AC Milan web siteDusan Vlahovic * (Juventus) - 10th Feb, Ben Jacobs (Twitter); - (Lukaku + cash), 3rd June, Gazzetto dello Sport - 15th July, CFC Not interested in Vlahovic, Fabrizio Romano, Twitter - 31st July, Lukaku + cash stories re-emerge, Gianluca Di MarzioJoao Felix * (Atletico Madrid on loan to Chelsea) Permanent move - 10th Feb, various via AS; Swap deal (Cucurella and Aubameyang) - 9th May, Evening Standard & Daily Express; Atletico Madrid confirm return to club, 30th May, Daily Mail & elsewhereGonçalo Ramos (Benfica) - 10th Feb, Sporting Life; 22nd Feb, Correio da ManhaMarcus Thuram * (Borussia Monchengladbach - Out of Contract 30 June 2023) - 10th Feb, Daily Mail - 1st July, Transfer to Inter Milan ConfirmedVitor Roque (Athletico Paranaese) [18 end of Feb] - 10th Feb, Goal- 7th July, Transfer to Barcelona Confirmed, Will join Jan 2024Abde Ezzalzouli (Barcelona) - 12th Feb, Mundo DeportivoNeymar (PSG) - 15th Feb, Le Parisien, 30th April, Football Insider - 15th August, Transfer to Al Hilal ConfirmedIvan Toney * (Brentford) - 17th Feb, Dean Jones (Twitter); 30th April, TNT Sports Argentina via Fichajes, - 17th May, 8 MONTH FA BANEvan Ferguson (Brighton & Hove Albion U-18) - 20th Feb, The Sun Tammy Abraham * (Roma) - 28th Feb, Football Insider; 1st March, SiamoLaRoma Khvicha Kvaratskhelia * (SSC Napoli) - 1st March, Gazzetta dello SportWilfred Zaha * (Crystal Palace) - 4th March, Daily Mail - 24th July, Transfer to Galatasaray ConfirmedHirving Lozano (SSC Napoli) - 8th March, Raffaele Auriemma (Radio CRC) Trevan Sanusi (Birmingham City - 16 in April) - 10th March, Transfer Tavern Raphinha * (Barcelona) - 13th March, Daily MailDujan Richards (Phoenix All Stars Academy, JAM) - 13th March, Pre-contract signed, Various Will join on 11th Oct 2023 (18th birthday)Brahim Diaz (Real Madrid) - 19th March, Sunday Mirror Wilfried Gnonto (Leeds United) - 21st March, Gazzetta dello SportHarry Kane * (Tottenham Hotspur) - 21st March, The Metro; [Lukaku + cash swap] - 24th March, Fichajes; - 14th May, Daily Mail, Metro & elsewhere - 12th August, Transfer to Bayern Munich ConfirmedFilip Kostic (Juventus) - 21st March, Calciomercatoweb Samuel Iling-Junior (Juventus) - 23rd March, 90min, Evening Standard & others Federico Chiesa * (Juventus) - 24th March, CalciomercatowebAlex Matos (Norwich City) - 25th March, Fabrizio Romano (Twitter); Confirmed TOCWS 3rd MayMason Melia (St Patrick’s Athletic, RoI) [15 years old] - 26th March, Football InsiderRasmus Hojlund (Atalanta) - 3rd April, Daily Mail, Daily Mirror + elsewhere - 5th August, Transfer to Manchester United ConfirmedAdama Bojang (Steve Biko FC, Gambia) - 10th April, Daily Mail Julian Alvarez (Manchester City) - 17th April, Goal Diego Moreira (Benfica B) pre-contract signed? - 22nd April, Record.pt; Confirmed TOCWS 30th JuneMakise Evans (Stevenage Borough) [16 years old] - 1st May, The Sun Sadio Mane (Bayern Munich) - 1st May, Football London via Christian Falk Emanuel Emegha (Sturm Graz) - 4th May, Foot MercatoLionel Messi (PSG – free agent on 30 June) - 5th May, football.london - Transfer to Inter Miami Confirmed Lautaro Martinez * (Inter Milan) - 5th May, foootball.london; 14th May Daily Mail, Metro & elsewhere - 20th June, “No discussions” Javier Zanetti – Inter VPJonathan David * (OSC Lille) - 5th May, L'Équipe Gift Orban (Gent) - 18th May, Evening Standard Habib Dialo (Strasbourg) - 20th May, Daily Express Ferran Torres * (Barcelona) - 24th May, Simon Phillips (Substack)Aleksandar Mitrovic * (Fulham) - 26th May, Simon Phillips (Substack)Marco Assensio (Real Madrid – Contract ends 30th June) - 27th May, Fabrizio Romano & Team Talk - 6th July, Transfer to PSG ConfirmedRandal Kolo Muani (Eintracht Frankfurt) - 27th May, Christian Falk Dominic Calvert-Lewin * (Everton) - 10th June, Dean Jones in GIVEMESPORT Kylian Mbappe * (PSG)) - 13th June, Daily Mail & elsewhereNicolas Jackson (Villarreal) - 14th June, Nizaar Kinsella via Evening Standard - 30th June, Confirmed TOCWSDominic Ballard (Southampton - 18yrs old) - 18th June, The Observer Mohammed Kudus (Ajax Amsterdam) - 27th June, Simon Philips, SubstackÂngelo Gabriel (Santos) - 28th June, AS - Confirmed TOCWS 16th JulyFolarin Balogun (Arsenal) - 6th July, Football Transfers Elye Wahi (Montpellier) - 10th July, L'ÉquipeOusmane Dembele * (Barcelona)) - 15th July, Football Transfers Ollie Watkins (Aston Villa) - 21st July, Simon Phillips, SubstackMichael Olise (Crystal Palace) - 22nd July, Fabrice Hawkins, RMC Sport - 17th August, New Crystal Palace contract signed Deivid Washington (Santos) - 4th August, Globo Esporte (Brz) repeated elsewhere - 9th August, £17m deal agreed Bradley Barcola (Olympique Lyonnais) - 17th August, Foot Mercato Brennan Johnson (Nottingham Forest) - 17th August, Nottinghamshire Live and elsewhere 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleeping Dave Posted August 18, 2023 Share Posted August 18, 2023 35 minutes ago, ROTG said: both Lavia and Caicedo are the dreams of TBSD at the cost of £200m after one good season as was Cucurella Hall is about at least and a season behind them in experience, therefore you are trying to compare apples and oranges. Yes, the real question one should ask is “where does Hall rank in ability and potential at 18 compared to other academy players say over the last 20 years?” I’d say comfortably top 5. You don’t sell that type of talent for £28m and then pretend it’s a smart move “because it’s pure FFP profits”. It’s bad business, end of discussion. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exiledblue Posted August 18, 2023 Share Posted August 18, 2023 1 hour ago, chiswickblue said: Still to go: In: back-up GK, possibly another winger Out: Ziyech, Lukaku, CHO, Sarr, Anjorin, Cumming, Ugochukwu/Santos (loan) Losing Hall is a disaster and one we will regret, but hopefully it means that Chalobah and Gallagher stay for now. I guess Mason Burstow and Basir Humphreys are being kept around the squad pending the recoveries of Badiashile and Broja. Out Cucurela Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exiledblue Posted August 18, 2023 Share Posted August 18, 2023 Has Olise signed a contract to increase his price or wasnt interested? Hopefully the latter otherwise TB will spend more money Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarefreeMuratcan Posted August 18, 2023 Share Posted August 18, 2023 Just wanted to enlighten everyone on a bit of wisdom I have read on the internet re: our transfer activity from a PSV fan. Players come to Chelsea because of the money. I'm sure players sign for PSV for the passion. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thevelourfog Posted August 18, 2023 Share Posted August 18, 2023 3 hours ago, Sleeping Dave said: The Lewis Hall news has ruined this whole window for me because it confirms my worst fear. Short-sighted. We will sell off the best academy players and pay lots of money to buy other teams players who aren’t any better. This is a model that will be detrimental long-term. This isn’t American franchise sports where the players affiliation to teams are rare. This is English football where fans wants to see the academy players rise through the ranks. We will rue this day. Perhaps even go back to Newcastle and buy him for big money. We can also be sure that the prospects we have in the academy will see that the trend continues. Expect more top talents to want to leave us due to how the club is run. I'm disappointed but it is a big stretch to be calling this a "model" at this point, and a very bold call to be saying the players we have brought in aren't any better. Do you genuinely not think, as far as direct comparisons can be made, that the likes of Fernández and Caicedo are not better than Lewis Hall? Let's not forget we've cleared the decks this summer, 18 outgoings in total and up to 19 with Hall. That would make only three players who are academy products, and two of them going after lengthy periods with the senior team. The overwhelming majority being sold off are not academy products. We are going to be selling academy products, so you will be "proven" correct in that sense. But every football club does, and we will he selling players we have bought, too. City have made huge money from doing just that this summer. "Top talent" will continue to come here for the reason it always has. Because we provide a second-to-none football education. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelsea_Matt Posted August 18, 2023 Share Posted August 18, 2023 Poch says Reecey out for a few weeks. We all know what that means. I bet he’ll be finished at top flight football by the time he’s 25. 😔 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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