Mark Kelly Posted August 25, 2023 Share Posted August 25, 2023 1 hour ago, My Blood Is Blue said: Not good enough for us, but good enough for Tuchel and Bayern. Incredible isn't it? Someone at the club is a clown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Original 21 Posted August 26, 2023 Share Posted August 26, 2023 I think these comments were made after the game last night: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chara Posted August 26, 2023 Share Posted August 26, 2023 4 minutes ago, Original 21 said: I think these comments were made after the game last night: But we still have a very offensive player......... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kev61 Posted August 26, 2023 Share Posted August 26, 2023 On 24/08/2023 at 22:51, Lump Of Celery said: Edit- I've said it a couple of weeks ago but if Felix is available on loan again I wouldn't be against it, at a reasonable fee. Fits the bill of what Poch is asking for. Seems his only option is Barca and they can't register the players they have I think you are right.I said at the time that Felix would slot in nicely as a Nkunku replacement. Why do people judge a player in a dysfunctinal team?.He was one the bright spots. Some people are saying we miss Nkunku.We probably do but he has only played a handful of games. We should be getting to the stage where we never miss one player with the money spent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob B Posted August 26, 2023 Share Posted August 26, 2023 7 hours ago, Original 21 said: €18.5m is a huge amount of money for a club like Roma to pay to have Romelu Lukaku for one season?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleeping Dave Posted August 26, 2023 Share Posted August 26, 2023 12 hours ago, thevelourfog said: No. Yeah you’ve convinced me with your impeccable argumentation. This is one of those instances where someone makes a claim so incredible that the only move is to walk away. Agree to disagree. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chiswickblue Posted August 26, 2023 Share Posted August 26, 2023 14 hours ago, Lump Of Celery said: I don't think it does, this is the exact wording from the FIFA website- Players aged 21 and younger and club-trained players will be exempt from these limitations. I took the wording from the actual regulations as the general article is misleading: The loan of a professional will be exempt from the above limitations if: a) the loan occurs before the end of the season of the former club in which the professional turns 21; and b) the professional is a club-trained player with the former club. This is from article 3.10 of the 2023 regulations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Original 21 Posted August 26, 2023 Share Posted August 26, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, Rob B said: €18.5m is a huge amount of money for a club like Roma to pay to have Romelu Lukaku for one season?! Yeah. Those figures look high. Looks like he’ll be expected to take a pay cut though… Edited August 26, 2023 by Original 21 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
My Blood Is Blue Posted August 26, 2023 Author Share Posted August 26, 2023 17 minutes ago, Original 21 said: Yeah. Those figures look high. Looks like he’ll be expected to take a pay cut though… Poor guy, only going to be able to collect £7m a year. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martin1905 Posted August 26, 2023 Share Posted August 26, 2023 (edited) Once again take this with the biggest pinch of salt but...... Apparently...... The club are 100% working on another forward and have been all summer. I was told weeks ago we would get Caicedo a striker and another AM as proper first team players, with most the other players to be young 'club' signings. We wanted the Vlahovic/Lukaku deal but Pochettino was against it and still is. He was the one that pushed for Jackson and he was always going to be our main striker. Pochettino thinks he will become one of the best in the world. I doubt many will remember but I also said we were prepared to go huge, on the right AM, if they became available. The idea is clear...... Jackson ? Nkunku Sterling As our first choice forwards. Pochettino loves Mudryk but has a lot of work to do with him, apparently he is very naive, in terms of his understanding of how he needs to play the game, due to his lack of top level experience. Overthinking things and worrying too much about that side of his game is what his lack of confidence is being put down to but they are not worried. Pochettino is convinced he can become elite. So Broja Mudryk Chuckwuemeka Madueke They are the four that are all seen as future stars that would be integrated into the first team over the next couple of years. All of them aware and happy with their situation and squad status. This model, having an outright first team and younger players that are in the squad for the future can be seen right across the squad. We pretty much have two clear players in each position. There's obviously exceptions like Colwill, Enzo and Caicedo ,they are all young and seen as 'First 11' players. Lavia and Ugochukwu are the two 'future stars' for the midfield and Ugochukwu won't be going on loan. We will see how reliable my man is on this one I suppose as most expect him to go Anyway, apologies for the long winded post but I found the conversation I had very interesting and thought I'd share, as I'm sure most are more bothered about the potential new AM I have been told we would like and will push hard to get and that is Rafael Leao and yes I questioned straight away about him recently signing a new contract but he ticks literally every box from the manager and the boards point of view and they believe it's possible, despite the new contract. Like I said take it for what it is. Edited August 26, 2023 by martin1905 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Blue Moon Posted August 26, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted August 26, 2023 1 hour ago, My Blood Is Blue said: Poor guy, only going to be able to collect £7m a year. By my calculation, that's just over 27, 000 mini-fillets a day. He'll be peckish ... 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ham Posted August 26, 2023 Share Posted August 26, 2023 57 minutes ago, martin1905 said: Once again take this with the biggest pinch of salt but...... Apparently...... The club are 100% working on another forward and have been all summer. I was told weeks ago we would get Caicedo a striker and another AM as proper first team players, with most the other players to be young 'club' signings. We wanted the Vlahovic/Lukaku deal but Pochettino was against it and still is. He was the one that pushed for Jackson and he was always going to be our main striker. Pochettino thinks he will become one of the best in the world. I doubt many will remember but I also said we were prepared to go huge, on the right AM, if they became available. The idea is clear...... Jackson ? Nkunku Sterling As our first choice forwards. Pochettino loves Mudryk but has a lot of work to do with him, apparently he is very naive, in terms of his understanding of how he needs to play the game, due to his lack of top level experience. Overthinking things and worrying too much about that side of his game is what his lack of confidence is being put down to but they are not worried. Pochettino is convinced he can become elite. So Broja Mudryk Chuckwuemeka Madueke They are the four that are all seen as future stars that would be integrated into the first team over the next couple of years. All of them aware and happy with their situation and squad status. This model, having an outright first team and younger players that are in the squad for the future can be seen right across the squad. We pretty much have two clear players in each position. There's obviously exceptions like Colwill, Enzo and Caicedo ,they are all young and seen as 'First 11' players. Lavia and Ugochukwu are the two 'future stars' for the midfield and Ugochukwu won't be going on loan. We will see how reliable my man is on this one I suppose as most expect him to go Anyway, apologies for the long winded post but I found the conversation I had very interesting and thought I'd share, as I'm sure most are more bothered about the potential new AM I have been told we would like and will push hard to get and that is Rafael Leao and yes I questioned straight away about him recently signing a new contract but he ticks literally every box from the manager and the boards point of view and they believe it's possible, despite the new contract. Like I said take it for what it is. Leao seems very unlikely. FFP for a start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thevelourfog Posted August 26, 2023 Share Posted August 26, 2023 (edited) 4 hours ago, Sleeping Dave said: Yeah you’ve convinced me with your impeccable argumentation. This is one of those instances where someone makes a claim so incredible that the only move is to walk away. Agree to disagree. lol, you've made a ridiculous, reactionary comment and know you can't defend it but are still so desperate for the high ground. One more for you, some actual "argumentation" ... Bayern, one the "best sides in the world", finished level on points last year with Dortmund, one of ... what, 6 or 7, teams we've beat in our last 30 or so games. When we've been utter sh*te. Bayern aren't one of the best sides in world football, loads of bit-part PL players would have much bigger roles at Bundesliga clubs. Doesn't lend itself to big angry posts, I get it, but still true. Edited August 26, 2023 by thevelourfog 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelsea_Matt Posted August 26, 2023 Share Posted August 26, 2023 2 hours ago, My Blood Is Blue said: Poor guy, only going to be able to collect £7m a year. Still a lot of doughnuts bro 😎 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lump Of Celery Posted August 26, 2023 Share Posted August 26, 2023 8 hours ago, Rob B said: €18.5m is a huge amount of money for a club like Roma to pay to have Romelu Lukaku for one season?! Reported in some Italian media as a €5 loan fee, which sounds like a lame deal to me. I would be holding out for more and pushing him out to Saudi on a permanent deal if nobody matches it. I know their is some risk we would have to pick up his wages until January but €5m is just a mockery, they'll never be able to buy him permanently, he will be worth less next year and there will still be no clubs wanting to buy him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Kelly Posted August 26, 2023 Share Posted August 26, 2023 24 minutes ago, Lump Of Celery said: Reported in some Italian media as a €5 loan fee, which sounds like a lame deal to me. I would be holding out for more and pushing him out to Saudi on a permanent deal if nobody matches it. I know their is some risk we would have to pick up his wages until January but €5m is just a mockery, they'll never be able to buy him permanently, he will be worth less next year and there will still be no clubs wanting to buy him But the upside is he isn't here. Massive bonus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleeping Dave Posted August 26, 2023 Share Posted August 26, 2023 27 minutes ago, Lump Of Celery said: Reported in some Italian media as a €5 loan fee, which sounds like a lame deal to me. I would be holding out for more and pushing him out to Saudi on a permanent deal if nobody matches it. I know their is some risk we would have to pick up his wages until January but €5m is just a mockery, they'll never be able to buy him permanently, he will be worth less next year and there will still be no clubs wanting to buy him If we can get his £19,5m wages off the books for even one season, having an additional loan fee to sweeten the deal is just a massive bonus. I’m just surprised Mourinho is even slightly keen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
east lower Posted August 26, 2023 Share Posted August 26, 2023 6 minutes ago, Sleeping Dave said: I’m just surprised Mourinho is even slightly keen. Perhaps desperate? If your main striking threat is an out of sorts Tammy Abraham, then you just might take a punt on lardarse. It’s the one league that he has been a relative success for a season or two. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Kratos Posted August 26, 2023 Share Posted August 26, 2023 And Rome's famous Pandali will be reporting record business once dough boy touches down. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Ham Posted August 26, 2023 Share Posted August 26, 2023 53 minutes ago, Lump Of Celery said: Reported in some Italian media as a €5 loan fee, which sounds like a lame deal to me. I would be holding out for more Couldn't agree more. €5? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCreadie Posted August 26, 2023 Share Posted August 26, 2023 I should have been an accountant… Bought from Anderlecht for £12.8m Loan fee from West Brom £0 Loan fee from Everton £3.5m Sale to Everton £30m Purchase from Inter £97m Amortised over 5 years £19.5m per year 3 years amortisation = £58.5m Loan fee from Inter £6.7m Loan fee from Roma £8.5m SO, by the end of this season he has cost -12.8+3.5+30-97+6.7+8.5 = -£61.1m Take off the amortisation and he only owes us £2.6m. That’s not much more than the doughnut budget! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleeping Dave Posted August 26, 2023 Share Posted August 26, 2023 Ward-Prowse and Maddison, two players we really should have been looking at this summer. Barnes a third. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob B Posted August 26, 2023 Share Posted August 26, 2023 Just now, Sleeping Dave said: Ward-Prowse and Maddison, two players we really should have been looking at this summer. Barnes a third. Absolutely. Three very under-rated players who wouldn’t have cost the earth and all possess a much-needed goal threat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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