chiswickblue Posted November 19, 2023 Share Posted November 19, 2023 7 hours ago, Chelsea_Matt said: I think since then we have had a few factors that have really destroyed civility and polite but vigorous debate: - emergence of extreme politicians (globally) on both sides espesh compared to pre-2016 - explosion of social media use (espesh the increasingly dangerous TikTok) where people have no boundaries due to no social contact - the pandy, Ukraine, Israel etc etc - and a generally upside down world that exacerbates the above - the lethal mind poison of wokeness that has destroyed the police/justice system and infected all aspects of society. All we can hope is that Chels win our next game! 🤣💙⭐️ It seems like no thread is safe from the culture wars at the moment. Roll on end of the international break. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelsea_Matt Posted November 19, 2023 Share Posted November 19, 2023 16 minutes ago, chiswickblue said: It seems like no thread is safe from the culture wars at the moment. Roll on end of the international break. I’m not part of that crap. It was just a discussion. 🤷🏻♂️ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chiswickblue Posted November 19, 2023 Share Posted November 19, 2023 5 hours ago, Chelsea_Matt said: I’m not part of that crap. It was just a discussion. 🤷🏻♂️ You said "the lethal mind poison of wokeness that has destroyed the police/justice system and infected all aspects of society". This is jumping into the culture wars with two feet. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROTG Posted November 20, 2023 Share Posted November 20, 2023 17 hours ago, Dwmh said: Edit: I really worried for Jorginho at Arsenal given how Enzo was a clear upgrade to him a 100m upgrade???? Apart from being a part of Messi's world cup team, I am not sure Enzo will win the same amount or more honors than Jorginho whilst playing in the PL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROTG Posted November 20, 2023 Share Posted November 20, 2023 18 hours ago, Ham said: Nice try. Opportunism at it's best. He's been excellent for us from day one and has very recently looked tired thanks to his willingness to play every single game for club and country. Which particular match in the 7 wins and 2 assists in his 29 match PL career he's been head and shoulders above everyone else or been a game changer? 100m you would hope for something special once in a while. Maybe he really is an Todd & Eggy's ego buy form the WC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xceleryx Posted November 20, 2023 Share Posted November 20, 2023 1 hour ago, ROTG said: a 100m upgrade???? Apart from being a part of Messi's world cup team, I am not sure Enzo will win the same amount or more honors than Jorginho whilst playing in the PL Wasn't aware team based success equated to whether an individual player is better than another. By your logic Djimi Traore or Pascal Cygan were better than say players like Di Natale or Le Tissier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROTG Posted November 20, 2023 Share Posted November 20, 2023 11 minutes ago, xceleryx said: Wasn't aware team based success equated to whether an individual player is better than another. By your logic Djimi Traore or Pascal Cygan were better than say players like Di Natale or Le Tissier. Dare i say top teams have a game changers in there ranks e.g. KDB, Salah, Saka, Mbappe, Vinicius Jnr to name a few. BTW - Mentioning the likes of Le Tissier are you suggesting if Enzo's trajectory goes on an upward trend, he could be content being big fish in a small pond? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelsea_Matt Posted November 20, 2023 Share Posted November 20, 2023 12 hours ago, chiswickblue said: You said "the lethal mind poison of wokeness that has destroyed the police/justice system and infected all aspects of society". This is jumping into the culture wars with two feet. Any fair-minded person would agree imo but aside from that, expressing an opinion on a footy forum isn’t jumping into anything. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaneB Posted November 20, 2023 Share Posted November 20, 2023 1 hour ago, Chelsea_Matt said: Any fair-minded person would agree imo but aside from that, expressing an opinion on a footy forum isn’t jumping into anything. Yes but it's a football forum as you say Matt...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelsea_Matt Posted November 20, 2023 Share Posted November 20, 2023 2 hours ago, JaneB said: Yes but it's a football forum as you say Matt...... Yes. Sorry. Come on Chelsea!!! 😁💙😁💙 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thevelourfog Posted November 20, 2023 Share Posted November 20, 2023 23 hours ago, chiswickblue said: It seems like no thread is safe from the culture wars at the moment. Roll on end of the international break. It is increasingly tedious, and because we are a relatively small forum (which I actually think is generally a nice thing), it is the same few users every single time. People whose football contributions I often disagree with but am always happy to read and engage with. I'd be no great loss here but it does make it feel less and less worthwhile coming to the forum. Give me arguing about where Conte told Matic to stand over "it's just common sense that there is a cultural Marxist plot to takeover the world" any day. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgs Posted November 20, 2023 Share Posted November 20, 2023 6 minutes ago, thevelourfog said: It is increasingly tedious, and because we are a relatively small forum (which I actually think is generally a nice thing), it is the same few users every single time. People whose football contributions I often disagree with but am always happy to read and engage with. I'd be no great loss here but it does make it feel less and less worthwhile coming to the forum. Give me arguing about where Conte told Matic to stand over "it's just common sense that there is a cultural Marxist plot to takeover the world" any day. There 100% *IS* is neo-Marxist, globalist plot to takeover the world btw. Anyway, back to football. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dwmh Posted November 20, 2023 Share Posted November 20, 2023 29 minutes ago, Morgs said: There 100% *IS* is neo-Marxist, globalist plot to takeover the world btw. Is this the Five minute argument or the full half hour? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaneB Posted November 20, 2023 Share Posted November 20, 2023 37 minutes ago, thevelourfog said: It is increasingly tedious, and because we are a relatively small forum (which I actually think is generally a nice thing), it is the same few users every single time. People whose football contributions I often disagree with but am always happy to read and engage with. I'd be no great loss here but it does make it feel less and less worthwhile coming to the forum. Give me arguing about where Conte told Matic to stand over "it's just common sense that there is a cultural Marxist plot to takeover the world" any day. Well you would actually, not that you care what I think. We do our best to nip these things in the bud as soon as they happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chara Posted November 20, 2023 Share Posted November 20, 2023 1 hour ago, JaneB said: Well you would actually, not that you care what I think. We do our best to nip these things in the bud as soon as they happen. Ah Jane...most of us do care what you think...and I AGREE TVF would be missed as indeed would anyone here....all Chelsea voices and all opinions worth consideration...the wandering off into non Chelsea/football areas comes in part..I feel..from the close comfort and ease most feel coming on here.😇 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Kelly Posted November 20, 2023 Share Posted November 20, 2023 1 hour ago, Dwmh said: Is this the Five minute argument or the full half hour? I told you once. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Moon Posted November 20, 2023 Share Posted November 20, 2023 10 minutes ago, Mark Kelly said: I told you once. No you didn’t 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaneB Posted November 20, 2023 Share Posted November 20, 2023 8 minutes ago, chara said: Ah Jane...most of us do care what you think...and I AGREE TVF would be missed as indeed would anyone here....all Chelsea voices and all opinions worth consideration...the wandering off into non Chelsea/football areas comes in part..I feel..from the close comfort and ease most feel coming on here.😇 Thank you Chara. I think it’s partly because we’re in the dreaded international break and our minds wander. Personally I don’t mind that, it quite often gives me a giggle, as long as we return to the relevant topic eventually, which we always do. What we can’t allow is drifting into more serious stuff, ie politics, but everyone knows that, or they should by now 🙄 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Fowler Posted November 20, 2023 Share Posted November 20, 2023 Ugh please no Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chara Posted November 20, 2023 Share Posted November 20, 2023 33 minutes ago, JaneB said: Thank you Chara. I think it’s partly because we’re in the dreaded international break and our minds wander. Personally I don’t mind that, it quite often gives me a giggle, as long as we return to the relevant topic eventually, which we always do. What we can’t allow is drifting into more serious stuff, ie politics, but everyone knows that, or they should by now 🙄 I meant to add that point !!!,,,,, as I said elsewhere,,,"Will no one rid me of these turbulent fixtures" 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Kelly Posted November 20, 2023 Share Posted November 20, 2023 36 minutes ago, Max Fowler said: Ugh please no Brentford are running the old "Arsenal are interested" scam. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Fowler Posted November 20, 2023 Share Posted November 20, 2023 7 minutes ago, Mark Kelly said: Brentford are running the old "Arsenal are interested" scam. I think we could get Arsenal to pay over the odds in their shot at the title. If we end up getting excited and paying 100+ million for Toney, we will live to regret it. If we can make Arsenal do the same the Arteta project will continue to unravel. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chara Posted November 20, 2023 Share Posted November 20, 2023 18 minutes ago, Mark Kelly said: Brentford are running the old "Arsenal are interested" scam. "Strongly considering"...straight out of the media dishonesty file!🦨🐀🐽 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ham Posted November 20, 2023 Share Posted November 20, 2023 (edited) Every time I hear about us being interested in a big money signing it gets me thinking "if true, maybe the club aren't actually worried about the possibility of us being relegated from the PL". Could be just short sighted sports journalists forgetting that we're on the cusp of Armageddon of course. If we do actually spend big in the next 12 months that would give me some comfort in a strange way. Edited November 20, 2023 by Ham 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Fowler Posted November 20, 2023 Share Posted November 20, 2023 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Ham said: Every time I hear about us being interested in a big money signing it gets me thinking "if true, maybe the club aren't actually worried about the possibility of us being relegated from the PL". Could be just short sighted sports journalists forgetting that we're on the cusp of Armageddon of course. If we do actually spend big in the next 12 months that would give me some comfort in a strange way. Could it also mean that we are trying to sign players before we get a transfer embargo and or become so unattractive because of our league position after a 20 point deduction? Personally I think the board is just identifying the positions that need strengthening now, then we take what punishment we get. Edited November 20, 2023 by Max Fowler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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