Dwmh Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 15 minutes ago, thevelourfog said: I wouldn't be keen on Jose coming back and think even he at his peak would be a bad fit for what we are. He turned nearly men into winners, not nowhere men into something vaguely resembling a football team. But this quoted bit is one of the funniest, most arse over elbow bits I've ever seen here. Mourinho being at a club and that club winning a trophy, even to his most ardent critic the relationship between these two things should be blindingly clear. yup. Man U for example. Everyone wants to say how badly he did there, but.... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miguelito07 Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 4 hours ago, chiswickblue said: . Selling those two and keeping Cucurella is crazy, I dont think any team would want to buy Cucurella after the couple of seasons he's had with us hence the reason we are keeping Cucurella Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bison Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 Get Kante back for the rest of the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Original 21 Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 Rumour is that Pochettino put his foot down over Gallagher being sold so Maatsen, Chalobah and Broja are being sold instead. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulw66 Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 5 hours ago, Thiago97 said: For a relatively small transfer for a couple of seasons, surely Henderson is a no brainer. In the words of Mark Corrigan, it is a brainer. I think he is finished at the top level, hence he is heading to a poor league, rather than back to the PL 33 minutes ago, Bison said: Get Kante back for the rest of the season. We need another player to keep the medical team busy. The 7 games he appeared in last season were invaluable. 31 minutes ago, Original 21 said: Rumour is that Pochettino put his foot down over Gallagher being sold so Maatsen, Chalobah and Broja are being sold instead. Sounds fair enough. If Broja goes and we get a loan in (Benzema or Mitrovic) until the summer that makes sense 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelsea_Matt Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 33 minutes ago, paulw66 said: In the words of Mark Corrigan, it is a brainer. I think he is finished at the top level, hence he is heading to a poor league, rather than back to the PL We need another player to keep the medical team busy. The 7 games he appeared in last season were invaluable. Sounds fair enough. If Broja goes and we get a loan in (Benzema or Mitrovic) until the summer that makes sense I’d pay someone to take Broja. Imo he’s hopelessly limited. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoblyBobly Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 On 14/01/2024 at 23:40, chara said: Well NB...I actually saw Jimmy Hill play...one Christmas game at Craven Cottage v Manure...but also Johnny Haynes Tony Macedo and Tosh Chamberlain (the joker in the pack) a great Manure side and the time I became a Denis Law acolyte...(not Manure!)..Fun trivia fact,,,he was also ex Boys Brigade and presented the prizes at a District PT competition which I remember because we won and I accepted the cup! Another of your hidden Gems. You are a Time Machine Chara. Were you alive in the 1800s ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thiago97 Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 (edited) 1 hour ago, paulw66 said: In the words of Mark Corrigan, it is a brainer. I think he is finished at the top level, hence he is heading to a poor league, rather than back to the PL We need another player to keep the medical team busy. The 7 games he appeared in last season were invaluable. Sounds fair enough. If Broja goes and we get a loan in (Benzema or Mitrovic) until the summer that makes sense No evidence based on this to be fair Paul. He was still very good for Liverpool last season. We all know the reasons why he went to Saudi, the same reasons any footballer has headed out there. Ajax might be the only offer on the table right now, and he appears keen to get out of the situation he put himself in with Saudi. I find it hard to believe he has declined significantly, over the course of an easy 3-4 months ( playing standard wise ) in Saudi. If anything , he is probably as fresh as a daisy after having an easy few months on the sun. He would make a big difference to us right now. He is a leader , a presence , a voice , a standard setter. Everything we are lacking across many areas of the pitch. 2 years back we wouldn’t really entertain signing him, cos we had plenty of what he brings . We don’t now though . Edited January 17 by Thiago97 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoblyBobly Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 On 14/01/2024 at 23:49, xceleryx said: Gronkjaer cost us like £8m back in 2000 and was the second most expensive signing we made that summer behind JFH. It was a decent chunk of change at the time. Werner cost more but also arrived on the back of two prolific seasons and arguably one of the most dangerous forwards in the Bundesliga. Neither panned out of course, but I think it's harsh to say "Werner gave us absolutely nothing". We always looked a better side when he played despite his struggles in front of goal. We also didn't lose a Champions League game in which he played IIRC. While none of us like Spurs, I do have a soft spot for Werner personally and wouldn't mind seeing him do well on the provision Spurs drop points. I suppose 8mill was a lot in 2000 but I dare say it was not money down the drain. We expected great things of Werner but how he got those goals in previous season is a total mystery. I rooted for him , and Havertz and Zyech . What are the chances than none came close to expectations. Awful in fact. No idea how he’s done since he left us , but I will be amazed if Spurs get a tune out of him ( or a goal in 5). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ham Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 3 hours ago, Dwmh said: yup. Man U for example. Everyone wants to say how badly he did there, but.... Also winning the CL with an unfancied Inter 🤔 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bones Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 34 minutes ago, Ham said: Also winning the CL with an unfancied Inter 🤔 Also getting Spurs to a cup final too, he would have probably lost it, but now he has a perfect excuse that he was not allowed to play it 😂 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bison Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 3 hours ago, paulw66 said: The 7 games he appeared in last season were invaluable. 7 Kante games might get us a cup win and a top half finish. Also, he's a real Chelsea legend that deserves a proper send off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chara Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 2 hours ago, NoblyBobly said: Another of your hidden Gems. You are a Time Machine Chara. Were you alive in the 1800s ? Dec 26th 1860..Sheffield Fc v Hallam FC as I recall...... I were just a lad of course.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Original 21 Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 Broja rumours picking up… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ham Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 7 minutes ago, Original 21 said: Broja rumours picking up… The next source quoted £50m and the one after that, £50-60m, all in the space of a few hours. If we wait until the morning to sell him, we'll be completely clear on FFP. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dwmh Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 32 minutes ago, Original 21 said: Broja rumours picking up… I think we would all consider a sales at £35m. Convinces me that he is staying. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Moon Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 4 hours ago, NoblyBobly said: Another of your hidden Gems. You are a Time Machine Chara. Were you alive in the 1800s ? Clue. He has a sonic screwdriver ….. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xceleryx Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 9 hours ago, thevelourfog said: I wouldn't be keen on Jose coming back and think even he at his peak would be a bad fit for what we are. He turned nearly men into winners, not nowhere men into something vaguely resembling a football team. But this quoted bit is one of the funniest, most arse over elbow bits I've ever seen here. Mourinho being at a club and that club winning a trophy, even to his most ardent critic the relationship between these two things should be blindingly clear. What I said, which you quoted, was more addressing that Roma's increase in ticket sales wasn't necessarily down to purely Mourinho himself being there. It was of course because he won a trophy, even if it was a minor European one. The same reaction, with respect to the increase in ticket sales and alike, would've happened had another manager been the one who had finally brought some success to the club. Wasn't dismissing Mourinho's knack of winning trophies or anything in between. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoblyBobly Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 55 minutes ago, Blue Moon said: Clue. He has a sonic screwdriver ….. 🤣 He’s got some gizmo or magic potion going on! We are lucky to have “old” Chara on this forum with his real life, first hand tales of those bygone days. And his memory is as sharp as a tack! It always amuses me when my Dad tells a story about how he was ran over by a horse drawn milk cart and miraculously survived….now that really is something I can’t get my head round! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chara Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 2 hours ago, NoblyBobly said: 🤣 He’s got some gizmo or magic potion going on! We are lucky to have “old” Chara on this forum with his real life, first hand tales of those bygone days. And his memory is as sharp as a tack! It always amuses me when my Dad tells a story about how he was ran over by a horse drawn milk cart and miraculously survived….now that really is something I can’t get my head round! Hmm...my Mum sprained her ankle running out to compete with the neighbours for the milk cart horse "droppings"...for manure..I kid you not! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thevelourfog Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 10 hours ago, xceleryx said: What I said, which you quoted, was more addressing that Roma's increase in ticket sales wasn't necessarily down to purely Mourinho himself being there. It was of course because he won a trophy, even if it was a minor European one. The same reaction, with respect to the increase in ticket sales and alike, would've happened had another manager been the one who had finally brought some success to the club. Wasn't dismissing Mourinho's knack of winning trophies or anything in between. You can't see how the first emboldened bit is you exactly doing what you say you weren't in the second one? Not just any other manager goes to Roma and wins a trophy of any prestige at the earliest opportunity. Sure, ticket sales go up if a hypothetical different manager goes there and wins a trophy. But in reality, history shows there aren't many who do that. We're agreed he'd be a car crash here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xceleryx Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 2 minutes ago, thevelourfog said: You can't see how the first emboldened bit is you exactly doing what you say you weren't in the second one? Not just any other manager goes to Roma and wins a trophy of any prestige at the earliest opportunity. Sure, ticket sales go up if a hypothetical different manager goes there and wins a trophy. But in reality, history shows there aren't many who do that. We're agreed he'd be a car crash here. No, I understand how it reads it's just the cumbersome nature of how I explained it. Obviously it was Mourinho that did it, and there's credit he deserves for that, even if he did tank the league on purpose to protect that record a little - something Roma fans acknowledge. But yeah, bottom line is that he isn't the man for us or the job on hand here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROTG Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 1 hour ago, xceleryx said: But yeah, bottom line is that he isn't the man for us or the job on hand here. Absolutely - I doubt mid table management would ever be a consideration for him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
east lower Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 9 hours ago, chara said: Hmm...my Mum sprained her ankle running out to compete with the neighbours for the milk cart horse "droppings"...for manure..I kid you not! That’s a s**t thing to happen.😉 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exiledblue Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 19 hours ago, Chelsea_Matt said: I’d pay someone to take Broja. Imo he’s hopelessly limited. Its incredible, we had a knack of getting top strikers that others feared now we have a knack of getting mediocrity 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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