ROTG Posted July 31 Share Posted July 31 1 hour ago, paulw66 said: So you think KdH had nothing to do with Maresca? Strange coincidence he landed here about 6 minutes after he was appointed. Rinse and repeat answer from me here championed KDH last summer when the club sniffed at him and got shot down on here. All of a sudden a championship player is now being touted as a better player than England international who was selected and played in the Euros. Ted Lasso could have been the coach, the sports department had identified him as a direct replacement for CG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Kelly Posted July 31 Share Posted July 31 30 minutes ago, ROTG said: Rinse and repeat answer from me here championed KDH last summer when the club sniffed at him and got shot down on here. All of a sudden a championship player is now being touted as a better player than England international who was selected and played in the Euros. Ted Lasso could have been the coach, the sports department had identified him as a direct replacement for CG. You're arguing against the wrong thing here nobody is saying he's a better player, you said the coach had no input in who we sign and Paul rightly offered KDH as proof they had listened to who he wanted. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Moon Posted July 31 Share Posted July 31 1 hour ago, thevelourfog said: Christ, the idea of having to say out loud, in a pub no less, "I'm thevelourfog" ... You’re bad for having a handle you can’t whistle … 😗 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
east lower Posted July 31 Share Posted July 31 1 hour ago, bertles86 said: Gone are the days where we sell Meireles and buy Oscar. Or sell Sidwell and buy Deco. If we sell Gallagher, there's no upgrade arriving. We need his energy, experience and blue blood. Otherwise we have no identity and no leadership. I see no stand out captain in our squad if he leaves. I absolutely agree with all you have said there. It's been a deliberate strategy to rid the club of all middle-management and above that was part of Roman's structure. They are squeezing every last drop of identity we have had, hoping that their new methods will succeed and we will forget. I won't and from your comments, maybe you will not either, but most will if success follows. Don't get me wrong, success will soften the blows for me also but I think 'success' is a destination that's keeping it's distance from us and we're not catching it yet or for a little while. We forgot Robben, Duff, Bridge etc. We'll forget Gallagher, Chalobah but they are the solid club players that really good units utilise, not discard, just because it balances the books. Simple, just stop buying dross the so, so players, then you don't need to shift real assets - it's not always the tangible things that add value, especially so in real football. That's the bit the new owners clearly don't get. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sciatika Posted July 31 Share Posted July 31 1 hour ago, thevelourfog said: Christ, the idea of having to say out loud, in a pub no less, "I'm thevelourfog" ... Every so often, I come into this thread wondering if there is something I might have missed and am presented with something completely inexplicable and leave quickly. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelsea_Matt Posted July 31 Share Posted July 31 1 hour ago, Mark Kelly said: You're arguing against the wrong thing here nobody is saying he's a better player, you said the coach had no input in who we sign and Paul rightly offered KDH as proof they had listened to who he wanted. I have had this with @ROTG earlier in these pages and with genuine respect to him he did the same thing, the same usual rant about “TBSD” and “yes men” etc. 💀💀💀🩷 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Moon Posted July 31 Share Posted July 31 Taken you a while - I've been like that for years - put it down to age and substance (liquid) abuse 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelsea_Matt Posted July 31 Share Posted July 31 23 minutes ago, east lower said: I absolutely agree with all you have said there. It's been a deliberate strategy to rid the club of all middle-management and above that was part of Roman's structure. They are squeezing every last drop of identity we have had, hoping that their new methods will succeed and we will forget. I won't and from your comments, maybe you will not either, but most will if success follows. Don't get me wrong, success will soften the blows for me also but I think 'success' is a destination that's keeping it's distance from us and we're not catching it yet or for a little while. We forgot Robben, Duff, Bridge etc. We'll forget Gallagher, Chalobah but they are the solid club players that really good units utilise, not discard, just because it balances the books. Simple, just stop buying dross the so, so players, then you don't need to shift real assets - it's not always the tangible things that add value, especially so in real football. That's the bit the new owners clearly don't get. We aren’t Chelsea anymore. Took decades to create and it was instantly destroyed . 😔💯✌️ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post east lower Posted July 31 Popular Post Share Posted July 31 (edited) 29 minutes ago, Chelsea_Matt said: We aren’t Chelsea anymore. Took decades to create and it was instantly destroyed . 😔💯✌️ Yes, they’re well on their way to doing that. But for me (and hopefully you) there’ll always be the special memories. I’ve just booked my annual pilgrimage to my Mecca aka Munich, for the end of August - they’ll never take that memory from me. I now share that with my 15 year-old grand-daughter. She gets how special it is for me, as does my wife and son, the latter being there on the day. Those are the things, that these ‘people’ in charge don’t get. Edited July 31 by east lower 1 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Singleton Posted July 31 Share Posted July 31 57 minutes ago, Chelsea_Matt said: I have had this with @ROTG earlier in these pages and with genuine respect to him he did the same thing, the same usual rant about “TBSD” and “yes men” etc. 💀💀💀🩷 Me too, a week or so back. Pointed out that the signings of both KD-H and Renato Veiga suggested that the coach WAS being consulted (maybe even indulged a little) after all. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JaneB Posted July 31 Popular Post Share Posted July 31 6 hours ago, chara said: PLEASE EVERYONE....LETS JUST ALL CALM DOWN,,, So much aggression due maybe to the puzzlement and frustrations of the way Chelsea appears to be being managed. So many intelligent literate sensible voices I get great pleasure from when following their posts at each others throats over football? WE ARE ALL CHELSEA,,don't lose sight of that; No body needs banning for honest, if possibly over reauctioning, views...I'm sure face to face all would take a deep breath and step back. This is OUR forum and squabbles and disagreements are as a part of it as the silly smiles acute observation and insightful discussion. Lets keep it that way......... 6 hours ago, My Blood Is Blue said: As @chara rightly pointed out, and I appreciate him doing so, let's all try to dial it back a bit. This space is meant for healthy debate, which should never get personal. However, it seems like that's the direction things are heading again. We’re not always going to agree or get along, and that’s okay, but no one here is interested in reading post after post of a few people engaged in what often feels like a game of one-upmanship. I really don't want to have to delete people's posts, that's not what it's about here, I think we're all old enough and ugly enough to just sort ourselves out (I also don't have the time!), but if I need too, I will, because I feel like it's getting out of hand. This and This ^^ I haven't been around today to see all this panning out, but I hate it when members fall out and one or two feel inclined to leave. Please don't. We need you all and Sam has worked so hard to put this forum together with a more friendly and informal vibe that it would be such a shame to lose anyone. I'm very disheartened about my club atm but coming on here actually makes it more bearable. Everyone has their own opinions but we're all Chelsea aren't we?? 1 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaneB Posted July 31 Share Posted July 31 5 hours ago, thevelourfog said: Christ, the idea of having to say out loud, in a pub no less, "I'm thevelourfog" ... 5 hours ago, Ham said: I need to see you positively bounding through the door, exclaiming this in lung- bursting fashion 😂 To see you two bonding over a pint would make my day 😉 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ham Posted July 31 Share Posted July 31 8 minutes ago, JaneB said: To see you two bonding over a pint would make my day 😉 We get on just fine Jane 🙂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaneB Posted July 31 Share Posted July 31 Sorry, didn’t mean anything by it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chara Posted July 31 Share Posted July 31 8 minutes ago, JaneB said: Sorry, didn’t mean anything by it. Don't worry Jane...all taken as meant I believe.... fwiw I usually bond with almost anyone over a pint!...and would love to be at a gathering with all the scallywags and reprobates from CFCnet! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ham Posted July 31 Share Posted July 31 22 minutes ago, JaneB said: Sorry, didn’t mean anything by it. I know you didn't Jane. Sorry if that came across wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Original 21 Posted July 31 Share Posted July 31 As per Ham’s post above it looks like the club are keen to get their version of events out there… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chara Posted July 31 Share Posted July 31 1 minute ago, Original 21 said: As per Ham’s post above it looks like the club are keen to get their version of events out there… If correct then puts a different light on the issue...wonder why,and what, he turned offers down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ham Posted July 31 Share Posted July 31 Everybody got briefed at 11:30. They all thought they had an exclusive. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
east lower Posted July 31 Share Posted July 31 5 minutes ago, Original 21 said: As per Ham’s post above it looks like the club are keen to get their version of events out there… More briefs going on than in a Calvin Klein underwear photo shoot! Other brands are available. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Original 21 Posted July 31 Share Posted July 31 11 minutes ago, chara said: If correct then puts a different light on the issue...wonder why,and what, he turned offers down. There’s mention in one of the pieces that he sees himself as a starter rather than a squad player. That may have been the case last season under Poch but unlikely under Maresca I think. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROTG Posted August 1 Share Posted August 1 8 hours ago, paulw66 said: Well, you could argue it's already here. Lavia to come back in, then Caceido, Enzo, and KdH playing ahead. Palmer or Nkunku options for the 10 (where CG played a fair bit) We're not short there. I think you will find caceido, Enzo, Lavia are from knotty Ash Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROTG Posted August 1 Share Posted August 1 7 hours ago, Mark Kelly said: You're arguing against the wrong thing here nobody is saying he's a better player, you said the coach had no input in who we sign and Paul rightly offered KDH as proof they had listened to who he wanted. Ok Don't you remember your post to me last season about KDH is not coming to Chelsea. Anyway nice to see the club allegedly selling and England international for £4m more than his championship replacement 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
My Blood Is Blue Posted August 1 Author Share Posted August 1 So now they’ll keep telling us Gallagher has turned down all the contracts they’ve offered and he wanted out. Don’t believe it, personally. Even if it was true, I don’t blame him, after the season he had he gets offered an extension of 2 seasons and an option for a 3rd, when they’re dishing out 7/8 year contracts to players who have barely played any top level football. Stinks. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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