Sleeping Dave Posted August 9 Share Posted August 9 1 hour ago, Ham said: Amazes me that the club didn't always have a strategy of playing the same system throughout all ages groups but they didn't. Insane. It’s not though. It would be insanity to mould every youth player into one fixed system. Firstly you don’t maximise the players potential by doing that and secondly you need tactical flexibility. So… No, I don’t think it’s insane to not be doing that. Quite the opposite in fact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Kelly Posted August 9 Share Posted August 9 13 minutes ago, Sleeping Dave said: I think you’re giving them way too much credit. Personally I feel 100% certain they think they’ve found some sort of loophole by stock-piling these youngsters. Thinking they can take the PE blueprint and apply it to footballers. For obvious reasons that won’t work. Well Dave as I said previously , they have no interest in what you , I or anyone on here thinks , so let's see what pans out eh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ham Posted August 9 Share Posted August 9 22 minutes ago, Bison said: Pedro Neto eh. The Mudryk nightmare is finally over then. Thank **** for that. I heard he's coming as back-up to Super Misha 🫴🏻💣💥 21 minutes ago, Sleeping Dave said: It’s not though. It would be insanity to mould every youth player into one fixed system. Firstly you don’t maximise the players potential by doing that and secondly you need tactical flexibility. So… No, I don’t think it’s insane to not be doing that. Quite the opposite in fact. Their basic go-to formation during matches should be the same at all levels, taking into account opposition. So maybe three core set-ups. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleeping Dave Posted August 9 Share Posted August 9 3 hours ago, Bigpokey24 said: at least some quality . Pedro is miles ahead of Mudryk Isn’t Neto primarily a RW? Maybe this mean that Mudryk is out, but out after Palmer moving more centrally and Neto moving into RW together with Madueke? Like so; CM: Enzo/Caicedo/Lavia/Dewsbury-Hall/Ugochukwu LW: Nkunku/Sterling CAM: Palmer/Chukwuemeke RW: Neto/Madueke S: Jackson/Omorodion/Guiu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chiswickblue Posted August 9 Share Posted August 9 2 hours ago, Sleeping Dave said: Isn’t Neto primarily a RW? Maybe this mean that Mudryk is out, but out after Palmer moving more centrally and Neto moving into RW together with Madueke? Like so; CM: Enzo/Caicedo/Lavia/Dewsbury-Hall/Ugochukwu LW: Nkunku/Sterling CAM: Palmer/Chukwuemeke RW: Neto/Madueke S: Jackson/Omorodion/Guiu I feel like Nkunku would be wasted on the left. I think him, Palmer and Chukwuemeka are the CAM options. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleeping Dave Posted August 9 Share Posted August 9 (edited) 11 minutes ago, chiswickblue said: I feel like Nkunku would be wasted on the left. I think him, Palmer and Chukwuemeka are the CAM options. I feels wrong to not have Palmer and Nkunku in the same XI. Edit: I reckon the best XI at this point in time is: GK: Joergensen / Sanchez RB: James / Gusto CB: Disasi / Adarabioyo CB: Colwill / Badiashile LB: Cucurella / ? Chilwell can’t play LCB or inverted LB CM: Lavia / Enzo CM: Caicedo / Dewsbury-Hall RW: Palmer/Madueke AM: Nkunku/Chukwuemeka LW: Sterling/Mudryk S: Jackson/Guiu But there is no way any manager can get away with benching Enzo. So most likely he will play instead of Lavia in that XI. It’s also a tight race between Disasi and Adarabioyo. Fofana was always, his injuries notwithstanding, a ridiculous purchase. So overrated it’s unreal - even before his injuries. Edited August 9 by Sleeping Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chiswickblue Posted August 9 Share Posted August 9 7 minutes ago, Sleeping Dave said: I feels wrong to not have Palmer and Nkunku in the same XI. Agreed, which for me means Palmer on the right with Madueke as backup. Sterling is then the best option on the left, unless Pedro Neto is being signed to play there. Getting rid of Mudryk won't be easy... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
My Blood Is Blue Posted August 9 Author Share Posted August 9 9 hours ago, Sleeping Dave said: It’s not though. It would be insanity to mould every youth player into one fixed system. Firstly you don’t maximise the players potential by doing that and secondly you need tactical flexibility. So… No, I don’t think it’s insane to not be doing that. Quite the opposite in fact. Positives and negatives to the approach. The negatives you’ve described are valid IMO, however the potential positives, which is why I imagine the club are going in this direction, are that if you get it right, those players at youth level that are good enough can have much more chance of moving up to the senior team and adapting to things quickly and being able to perform in a system they understand. Foden, Rico Lewis and Oscar Bobb are good examples at Man City and Yamal and Gavi are great examples at Barcelona. I’m not a fan of them ripping up a blueprint of a very successful academy, it really does baffle me, however, I do understand why they are trying to do what they are doing. What makes it hard for us as fans is that it’s not a quick thing to get set up and even longer before we see results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RDCW Posted August 9 Share Posted August 9 1 hour ago, My Blood Is Blue said: Positives and negatives to the approach. The negatives you’ve described are valid IMO, however the potential positives, which is why I imagine the club are going in this direction, are that if you get it right, those players at youth level that are good enough can have much more chance of moving up to the senior team and adapting to things quickly and being able to perform in a system they understand. Foden, Rico Lewis and Oscar Bobb are good examples at Man City and Yamal and Gavi are great examples at Barcelona. I’m not a fan of them ripping up a blueprint of a very successful academy, it really does baffle me, however, I do understand why they are trying to do what they need to do. What makes it hard for us as fans is that it’s not a quick thing to get set up and even longer before we see results. And some of us haven't got that long 😆 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chara Posted August 10 Share Posted August 10 1 hour ago, RDCW said: And some of us haven't got that long 😆 Ain't THAT the truth! It's sobering thought that with all the optimism in the World the likelihood of me seeing Cole retire is highly unlikely! Seize The Day as ever, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ham Posted August 10 Share Posted August 10 13 minutes ago, chara said: Ain't THAT the truth! It's sobering thought that with all the optimism in the World the likelihood of me seeing Cole retire is highly unlikely! Seize The Day as ever, Quite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bison Posted yesterday at 13:01 Share Posted yesterday at 13:01 Chelsea 6-3 Brentford, u21 game just finished a few moments ago. Hat-trick for Tyrique George. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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