KingThistle Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 1 minute ago, thevelourfog said: Is there an irony in our club being much more a plaything, a metaphorical penis to swing about, under an investment consortium than it ever was under a single billionaire? This is answered quite simply - nationality. The American ego demands that they shout and demonstrate about how rich or powerful they are. Vulgar, but not uncommon from our friends across the pond. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
My Blood Is Blue Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 2 minutes ago, Max Fowler said: Lukaku and Sterling Maybe we shouldn’t sign any others based of this then 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Fowler Posted September 11 Author Share Posted September 11 27 minutes ago, KingThistle said: If at all possible, please could someone link me an article which they have already read which details what has instigated the reported rift in the boardroom? I don't know enough, I don't read much highbrow material. Anyone got anything which they have read which looks to be fair and accurate? I'd like to know and learn more. https://archive.ph/eTyGe https://www.givemesport.com/exclusive-why-there-is-a-civil-war-at-chelsea/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROTG Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 2 hours ago, My Blood Is Blue said: Maybe that's the problem, maybe I need to be a bit more ruthless! Sure @JaneB can advise you. 😢 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Fowler Posted September 11 Author Share Posted September 11 Just now, My Blood Is Blue said: Maybe we shouldn’t sign any others based of this then Nope, that's IMO not a good argument. That would be like me saying we shouldn't sign any more young players considering only Palmer has really been a success so far Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
My Blood Is Blue Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 1 minute ago, Max Fowler said: Nope, that's IMO not a good argument. That would be like me saying we shouldn't sign any more young players considering only Palmer has really been a success so far It was just a joke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
east lower Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 (edited) 34 minutes ago, My Blood Is Blue said: When was the last time we signed a top player? Also depends what we mean by a top player I guess. Lukaku? That didn’t work out very well? Cole Palmer is, but wasn’t when we signed him. Kante possibly, although not sure he was a top player as such. Thiago Silva potentially, but it definitely wasn’t considered that at the time. Does it go back to Hazard? Costa? But who else has since 2017 ish. Liverpool may have made a good signing or two that were very well regarded. But, there's been a new sheriff in town since just before then - The Abu Dhabi boys. As well as the already well versed attraction of Real Madrid, Barcelona, Munich. The issue may be that we've signed good players on very good wages, but not the very top echelon as we get outbid. For instance every man and his dog knew Haaland would be a success wherever he ended up, but we and others couldn't match the alleged £500k per week (netto, if you believe what you read). Truth is we haven't really replaced the 'spine' of the team since 2016/2017 and haven't been able to becasue of competition. We were the best place in town (Man Utd, Liverpool were our competition from a wages perspective) from 2003 through 2014 but since then Man City have taken over that spot, alongside the success that their planning and spending also provided. Edited September 11 by east lower 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Fowler Posted September 11 Author Share Posted September 11 2 minutes ago, My Blood Is Blue said: It was just a joke Fair, but many people on here have literally been seriously arguing that for months now 😅 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Kelly Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 1 hour ago, Max Fowler said: Lukaku and Sterling I'm beginning to see how you rate Jesus and Zinchenko so highly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ham Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 3 hours ago, ROTG said: Really. I thought the whole point of the CPO was to keep football at SB. If they build a multi purpose arena. Why would they need a CPO, surely being a multipurpose arena it would be self generating of income, and not reliant on once a week football revenue. No that's not the sole purpose of the CPO. It's to protect the club from ever having a ground sold from under our feet. Moving elsewhere has been debated by the CPO many times, most famously when Uncle Roman tried to skew the votes in order to move us to Battersea or even further afield. If similar protections were put in place at EC it would be an easy win for the EC vote. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sciatika Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 Can I point out that 4-4-3 is a typical formation for the sides playing against us when Anthony Taylor is the ref? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chara Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 4 hours ago, Sciatika said: Can I point out that 4-4-3 is a typical formation for the sides playing against us when Anthony Taylor is the ref? If only it were just Taylor ! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROTG Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 2 hours ago, Ham said: No that's not the sole purpose of the CPO. It's to protect the club from ever having a ground sold from under our feet. Moving elsewhere has been debated by the CPO many times, most famously when Uncle Roman tried to skew the votes in order to move us to Battersea or even further afield. If similar protections were put in place at EC it would be an easy win for the EC vote. You are missing the point of the discussion Why would a company like Clearlake do any deals with the CPO, when they have committed to building a general purpose arena, which can facilitate football, American football, rounders, concerts etc. and is in the heart of London 12 months a year. CPO is for SB and will never be part of any other arena constructed by Chelsea FC owners. To be fair Clearlake can afford to move Chelsea football club to a new stadium without any input from CPO. It’s just a shame the current EC gossip is just another smoke screen for the media. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROTG Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 4 hours ago, Mark Kelly said: I'm beginning to see how you rate Jesus and Zinchenko so highly They play in the CL every season Like Sterling this season and probably Lukaku next. when do you think a Chelsea team will next play CL football? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ham Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 1 minute ago, ROTG said: You are missing the point of the discussion Why would a company like Clearlake do any deals with the CPO, when they have committed to building a general purpose arena, which can facilitate football, American football, rounders, concerts etc. and is in the heart of London 12 months a year. CPO is for SB and will never be part of any other arena constructed by Chelsea FC owners. To be fair Clearlake can afford to move Chelsea football club to a new stadium without any input from CPO. It’s just a shame the current EC gossip is just another smoke screen for the media. You've just evidenced that you know nothing about the CPO. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post boratsbrother Posted September 11 Popular Post Share Posted September 11 17 minutes ago, ROTG said: You are missing the point of the discussion Why would a company like Clearlake do any deals with the CPO, when they have committed To be fair Clearlake can afford to move Chelsea football club to a new stadium without any input from CPO. Wrong! The sale of the SB site would a significant part of the budget for a move to EC. They can't sell the SB site without the permission of the CPO. Furthermore, they can't even use the name of Chelsea FC at another venue without the permission of the CPO. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROTG Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 2 hours ago, Ham said: 1 hour ago, boratsbrother said: Wrong! The sale of the SB site would a significant part of the budget for a move to EC. They can't sell the SB site without the permission of the CPO. Furthermore, they can't even use the name of Chelsea FC at another venue without the permission of the CPO. 2 hours ago, Ham said: You've just evidenced that you know nothing about the CPO. Clearlake do not need the sale of SB to buy and develop some where like EC. What did Clearlake sell to buy Chelsea? i doubt the PL would give a rats arse if Clearlake changed the clubs name to AFC Chelsea, remember Clearlake would not be doing a wimbledon in relocating and selling the club. Clearlake have already proven their innovative with amortisation of contracts, can’t see them losing any sleep over CPO freehold rights and the clubs name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Tucker Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 3 minutes ago, ROTG said: i doubt the PL would give a rats arse if Clearlake changed the clubs name to AFC Chelsea, Sorry, but I think that you're wrong on this point. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xceleryx Posted September 12 Share Posted September 12 12 hours ago, Max Fowler said: Nope, that's IMO not a good argument. That would be like me saying we shouldn't sign any more young players considering only Palmer has really been a success so far Our history with signing "big players" as a whole is pretty bloody woeful. We've signed some good players, that then performed and became great players here, but those that were already great when signing have by large expensively flopped. To say Palmer has been the only successful young player is also inaccurate. Gusto clearly stands out as another, we're seeing Madueke improve and being more impactful of late, and Jackson continues to showcase improvement. I'd group all of those as "successes" thus far. Then there's a couple others that could well slot into here like Lavia (should fitness prevail), Santos (based on his form out on loan), and then Paez and Estevao if they carry on at the rate their going. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ham Posted September 12 Share Posted September 12 8 hours ago, ROTG said: Clearlake do not need the sale of SB to buy and develop some where like EC. What did Clearlake sell to buy Chelsea? i doubt the PL would give a rats arse if Clearlake changed the clubs name to AFC Chelsea, remember Clearlake would not be doing a wimbledon in relocating and selling the club. Clearlake have already proven their innovative with amortisation of contracts, can’t see them losing any sleep over CPO freehold rights and the clubs name. Just stop. You're just arguing for the same of arguing. You're wrong. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
east lower Posted September 12 Share Posted September 12 (edited) 10 hours ago, ROTG said: You are missing the point of the discussion Why would a company like Clearlake do any deals with the CPO, when they have committed to building a general purpose arena, which can facilitate football, American football, rounders, concerts etc. and is in the heart of London 12 months a year. CPO is for SB and will never be part of any other arena constructed by Chelsea FC owners. To be fair Clearlake can afford to move Chelsea football club to a new stadium without any input from CPO. It’s just a shame the current EC gossip is just another smoke screen for the media. What Clearlake think they can do and what they actually can do, might be two very different things? Who knows, it could (probably not) turn into an AFC Wimbledon/MK Dons scenario. Now, that would give the pundit's, the media and the PGMOL an issue. Namely, which version of Chelsea do you hate on the most. 🤔 Edited September 12 by east lower Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Sciatika Posted September 12 Popular Post Share Posted September 12 A CPO is an organisation that represents a whole range of points of view. Some might favour a move to a new location as long as it is reasonable. Some might require a quid pro quo (such as a swap in land rights). For them, the aim is not the Bridge per se, as it is the continuation of the club. The Bridge is just one part of that. For others, the Bridge is a spiritual home and would not condone any move away. I think Clearlake are intelligent people. They know the value of the site both to Chelsea fans and in financial terms. They would be crazy to mothball Stamford Bridge in perpetuity and possibly lose the club's history and status in England and Europe. That could mean starting at level nine of the pyramid and destroying our European record. They would drive away large numbers of fans, which, in the end, is the club's lifeblood. No, they will seek to negotiate something mutually acceptable to all parties, including CPO. 1 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bert19 Posted September 12 Share Posted September 12 14 hours ago, Sciatika said: Can I point out that 4-4-3 is a typical formation for the sides playing against us when Anthony Taylor is the ref? We've got the Prick again on Saturday too. 3 of the last 5 PL games now.... Still, good to see the PL have dished out our punishment in a such a swift manner, they just need to crack on with the City charges now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Singleton Posted September 12 Share Posted September 12 To @ROTG regarding the CPO... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROTG Posted September 12 Share Posted September 12 1 hour ago, Ham said: Just stop. You're just arguing for the same of arguing. You're wrong. No, just stating facts that Clearlake are not stupid as already proven and there is more than one way to skin a cat BTW i do have CPO shares Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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