Chelsea owners and board

[Sciatika]

"...at a time when the Premier League is in the process of reducing commercial deals involving gambling companies."

Has anyone told the PL that insurance is essentially a kind of gambling?

[paulw66]

4 minutes ago, Sciatika said:

"...at a time when the Premier League is in the process of reducing commercial deals involving gambling companies."

Has anyone told the PL that insurance is essentially a kind of gambling?

It's not, it's the opposite. 

[Sciatika]

It's both. Punters use insurers to protect themselves against the unexpected, which is like using insurance to avoid gambling on outcomes.  But the insurance company (or the Names behind them) gamble that claims made on the insurances they underwrite do not exceed the premiums they receive. Being a Name is a risky business because their exposure is not limited. [I am, of course, assuming this is the same in Germany.]

[Bison]

Are they going to increase the size of the boardroom as well? 

According to reports earlier in the season they interviewed and rejected Mitchell so what has changed since then? Or are they no longer confident in the hires they did make? 

Edited April 30, 2023 by Bison

[xceleryx]

30 minutes ago, Bison said:

Are they going to increase the size of the boardroom as well? 

According to reports earlier in the season they interviewed and rejected Mitchell so what has changed since then? Or are they no longer confident in the hires they did make? 

I was pretty sure we just had interest in him, but there was no formal talks to have had either party "rejected" by the other. 

[Bob Singleton]

Depends on who you believe. One of them will be right.

❝Chelsea transfer news: Blues won’t reignite interest in Paul Mitchell amid talk of Mauricio Pochettino reunion❞

https://www.standard.co.uk/sport/football/chelsea-transfer-news-paul-mitchell-b1077863.html

[Bones]

🚨Breaking :Pochettino's Situation

After today's meeting in Vegas with American partners,Boehly seems to be on his own as shareholders believe his preferred coach might groom a squad that will have a top four mentality just like what is happening at Spurs.The Investors really believe in José Mourinho and are surprised that he was not approached.Those who financed Chelsea's takeover believe Boehly has made serious mistakes and is likely to make more if given the liberty.

If it escalates as our sources have learnt,Mourinho will be approached and Pochettino might not like it.Vivell also advised his German coach to not proceed as he believed the coach hiring might take twist and turns,and he was right!

More to follow!

(Steve Harlow @ AmericanSports)
#CFC
 

Boehly is just a little tool in this picture. Our club is owned by the investors in the first place!

[thevelourfog]

18 minutes ago, Bones said:

🚨Breaking :Pochettino's Situation

After today's meeting in Vegas with American partners,Boehly seems to be on his own as shareholders believe his preferred coach might groom a squad that will have a top four mentality just like what is happening at Spurs.The Investors really believe in José Mourinho and are surprised that he was not approached.Those who financed Chelsea's takeover believe Boehly has made serious mistakes and is likely to make more if given the liberty.

If it escalates as our sources have learnt,Mourinho will be approached and Pochettino might not like it.Vivell also advised his German coach to not proceed as he believed the coach hiring might take twist and turns,and he was right!

More to follow!

(Steve Harlow @ AmericanSports)
#CFC
 

Boehly is just a little tool in this picture. Our club is owned by the investors in the first place!

Where is this from? Google isn't turning up results for a Steve Harlow/AmericanSports.

This particular story doesn't sound at all plausible to me, but I do wonder about the longer term potential for fall out within the consortium. 

[Bones]

2 minutes ago, thevelourfog said:

Where is this from? Google isn't turning up results for a Steve Harlow/AmericanSports.

This particular story doesn't sound at all plausible to me, but I do wonder about the longer term potential for fall out within the consortium. 

Some FB post. Thanks for the more detailed investigation.

Indeed - internal fall out is possible. Especially when its borrowed money and people are expecting a return. Unlike when RA viewed this as fun project and perhaps PR.

[Bob Singleton]

12 minutes ago, Bones said:

Some FB post. Thanks for the more detailed investigation.

Indeed - internal fall out is possible. Especially when its borrowed money and people are expecting a return. Unlike when RA viewed this as fun project and perhaps PR.

Weren't there stories of the board being split on whether to sack Potter several weeks before he was eventually sacked?

[Bones]

16 minutes ago, Bob Singleton said:

Weren't there stories of the board being split on whether to sack Potter several weeks before he was eventually sacked?

Yeah I think so

[Bob Singleton]

1 hour ago, Bones said:

🚨Breaking :Pochettino's Situation

After today's meeting in Vegas with American partners,Boehly seems to be on his own as shareholders believe his preferred coach might groom a squad that will have a top four mentality just like what is happening at Spurs.The Investors really believe in José Mourinho and are surprised that he was not approached.Those who financed Chelsea's takeover believe Boehly has made serious mistakes and is likely to make more if given the liberty.

If it escalates as our sources have learnt,Mourinho will be approached and Pochettino might not like it.Vivell also advised his German coach to not proceed as he believed the coach hiring might take twist and turns,and he was right!

More to follow!

(Steve Harlow @ AmericanSports)
#CFC
 

Boehly is just a little tool in this picture. Our club is owned by the investors in the first place!

The suggestion is that Boehly wants a manager who will groom the squad to have a 'top four'  mentality (which we had prior to the takeover!) but that the rest of the board don't?  How ridiculous does that sound?

As for Mourinho, stories in Italy (such as Gazzetto dello Sport) suggest that he isn't particularly interested in a third stint here, and is waiting for the Roma board to set up a meeting to discuss the future. Some stories (Football Italia) even suggest that he was already approached by the new owners and said no.

Looking at that Facebook page, it's based in Nigeria and, delving further back down the timeline, repeats some pretty preposterous stories regarding transfers, which players are worth keeping etc.

Probably best to ignore it in future.

[Bones]

47 minutes ago, Bob Singleton said:

The suggestion is that Boehly wants a manager who will groom the squad to have a 'top four'  mentality (which we had prior to the takeover!) but that the rest of the board don't?  How ridiculous does that sound?

As for Mourinho, stories in Italy (such as Gazzetto dello Sport) suggest that he isn't particularly interested in a third stint here, and is waiting for the Roma board to set up a meeting to discuss the future. Some stories (Football Italia) even suggest that he was already approached by the new owners and said no.

Looking at that Facebook page, it's based in Nigeria and, delving further back down the timeline, repeats some pretty preposterous stories regarding transfers, which players are worth keeping etc.

Probably best to ignore it in future.

Cfcnet forum delivering again. 💪👊

better factcheckers than bbc 😂

[chara]

Time line being questioned and so on....Where does The Poch live at this time?

Not down the road and can easily get to Cobham/SB .

"Well missus..how do you fancy back to London?"..."Where? not that Barnet area ?

(Not sure where they were before but you get the point)

Regardless of our anxiety there is no rush..season is shot...get the small stuff sorted as well as all the BIG media focused issues...

It's ALL speculation albeit pretty easy to come up with what's going on...negotiating terms?...duh,..clarifying ongoing plans etc ?...double duh.

 

[ROTG]

8 hours ago, chara said:

Time line being questioned and so on....Where does The Poch live at this time?

Not down the road and can easily get to Cobham/SB .

"Well missus..how do you fancy back to London?"..."Where? not that Barnet area ?

(Not sure where they were before but you get the point)

Regardless of our anxiety there is no rush..season is shot...get the small stuff sorted as well as all the BIG media focused issues...

It's ALL speculation albeit pretty easy to come up with what's going on...negotiating terms?...duh,..clarifying ongoing plans etc ?...double duh.

 

It just another fine mess the club has got into Stanley 

It would seem the sporting department are intent on justifying their positions with this appointment, someone who is going to coach a group of misfits thanks largely to their January spending along with two additions already signed and a bloated squad which requires harvesting. Meaning whoever takes over their hand are tied from day one, hence the likes JN, LE more than likely walked away.

Maybe the p1ss poor form is a blessing in disguise and does strengthen the next coaches hand. The bookies don't often get it wrong, and would not be surprised if Poch has asked for some of the constraints to be removed and the ball is back in the sports department to agree or looking at alternatives again, with the likes of big Ange coming back in the picture, especially if he does the treble.

Paul Merton said at the weekend - Chelsea is the worst team in the PL, and to be honest he is absolutely right. 

We are nearer to the Everton model, than any other club in the league - Giving a small time Charlie like Winstanley a treasure chest of gold and watching him spend it on players who were no better than the existing squad and loanees without any control in January, is solely down to Boehly and Eghbali egos, one can only hope that Clearlake and their shareholders start asking questions.

[Chelsea_Matt]

3 minutes ago, ROTG said:

It just another fine mess the club has got into Stanley 

It would seem the sporting department are intent on justifying their positions with this appointment, someone who is going to coach a group of misfits thanks largely to their January spending along with two additions already signed and a bloated squad which requires harvesting. Meaning whoever takes over their hand are tied from day one, hence the likes JN, LE more than likely walked away.

Maybe the p1ss poor form is a blessing in disguise and does strengthen the next coaches hand. The bookies don't often get it wrong, and would not be surprised if Poch has asked for some of the constraints to be removed and the ball is back in the sports department to agree or looking at alternatives again, with the likes of big Ange coming back in the picture, especially if he does the treble.

Paul Merton said at the weekend - Chelsea is the worst team in the PL, and to be honest he is absolutely right. 

We are nearer to the Everton model, than any other club in the league - Giving a small time Charlie like Winstanley a treasure chest of gold and watching him spend it on players who were no better than the existing squad and loanees without any control in January, is solely down to Boehly and Eghbali egos, one can only hope that Clearlake and their shareholders start asking questions.

I would imagine that a LOT of questions are being asked and that there’ll be a big post mortem at some point. Maybe this type of season was coming; either way if we get back on track next season then it’ll mean the entire club will have learned from this. Next season is massive in every way.

[ROTG]

7 minutes ago, Chelsea_Matt said:

I would imagine that a LOT of questions are being asked and that there’ll be a big post mortem at some point. Maybe this type of season was coming; either way if we get back on track next season then it’ll mean the entire club will have learned from this. Next season is massive in every way.

The only way for the club to get back on track is to sign quality players which will improve the squad, and let the new coach determine who is in the squad and not the TB sports department.

 When RA took over he went and got a football man like Kenyon to run the club and set up the structure bringing in the likes of Frank Arnesen for setting ups the academy leaving as DoF, Emenalo to overhaul the scouting and leaving as DoF. In parallel continued to buy top draw players keeping the club at the top, which is the polar opposite to the current set-up and the egos at the top.

[Chelsea_Matt]

56 minutes ago, ROTG said:

The only way for the club to get back on track is to sign quality players which will improve the squad, and let the new coach determine who is in the squad and not the TB sports department.

 When RA took over he went and got a football man like Kenyon to run the club and set up the structure bringing in the likes of Frank Arnesen for setting ups the academy leaving as DoF, Emenalo to overhaul the scouting and leaving as DoF. In parallel continued to buy top draw players keeping the club at the top, which is the polar opposite to the current set-up and the egos at the top.

Seems so….?

[chara]

Watched the Leicester/Everton game....such a contrast...with A LOT at stake both sides went at it and looked fitter,sharper and watching "old man" Vardy cut Everton to pieces twice,,one goal and the crossbar.. made the contrast between the Chelsea not even feeble attempts to score even more mindblowing.

Both sides played better football than Chelsea and comparing that game with the Chelsea "efforts" shows just how low we have sunk and in true relegation form.

I really don't know if I have the stomach to watch the game today....my Chelsea always but somehow not quite so now.

[Mark Kelly]

21 minutes ago, chara said:

Watched the Leicester/Everton game....such a contrast...with A LOT at stake both sides went at it and looked fitter,sharper and watching "old man" Vardy cut Everton to pieces twice,,one goal and the crossbar.. made the contrast between the Chelsea not even feeble attempts to score even more mindblowing.

Both sides played better football than Chelsea and comparing that game with the Chelsea "efforts" shows just how low we have sunk and in true relegation form.

I really don't know if I have the stomach to watch the game today....my Chelsea always but somehow not quite so now.

I watch a lot of football and every other club in the Premier League plays better football than us . All of them.

[boratsbrother]

I'd love to know what Roman is thinking about the clubs alarming decline since he left? Regretting selling to Boehly and co?

[Ham]

14 minutes ago, boratsbrother said:

I'd love to know what Roman is thinking about the clubs alarming decline since he left? Regretting selling to Boehly and co?

Technically he didn't sell the club. He had it stolen from him. He hasn't seen a penny yet. 

I hope he reneges on the agreement to give the proceeds away out of spite. 

[Max Fowler]

Interesting in getting a straight up sense of where people think the owners are at and where we are heading at this moment. 

Seemed to me even for long spells under Potter there was a lot of confidence in the owners.

Now it seems at an all time low and only getting worse.

Are there some believers left? That we can become a modern day incredibly well functioning football club at the top of the league?

Or are they out of their depth? Do they simply not know enough about football, have so much hubris we are doomed under them?

Or does it remain to be seen? Is there (still) an opportunity for them to learn on the job? Or are they going to ruin us and we should look for new owners already?

[Bob Singleton]

@Max Fowler  The new owners have made mistakes, no doubt about it, but I also think that they'll learn from those mistakes. Rehiring Jose Calvarro (physio) shows they're capable of admitting their mistakes. Taking their time over choosing the new head coach is another example of this. They won't get everything right, but then, nor did Abramovich.

[Rob B]

9 minutes ago, Bob Singleton said:

@Max Fowler  The new owners have made mistakes, no doubt about it, but I also think that they'll learn from those mistakes. Rehiring Jose Calvarro (physio) shows they're capable of admitting their mistakes. Taking their time over choosing the new head coach is another example of this. They won't get everything right, but then, nor did Abramovich.

Pretty much exactly my take on it too ☝

We shouldn’t forget, they have got some things right too… they’ve bought some of the brightest young talent from across the globe, they’ve hired some highly-rated sporting / technical directors to run the football side longer-term,  they’ve put serious money in, committed to investing in  the stadium and attend nearly all of the games in person. 

But this summer is going to be crucial for the next 2-3 years imo.   New sponsorship needed, no CL revenue, 10-15 outgoings, 2-3 key first team positions required, Mount contract needs resolving and we have a managerial vacancy to fill !! 

Edited May 5, 2023 by Rob B