Chelsea owners and board

[east lower]

2 minutes ago, Ham said:

Calls himself "The Toddinator"

At least Bedad won’t have to learn a new name. 
 

They truly are a piece of work. We’ll be flying the Stars & Stripes at the stadium soon and god help anyone not chanting for the Americans at the next Ryder Cup.

[Chelsea_Matt]

13 minutes ago, Ham said:

Calls himself "The Toddinator"

🤣🤣🤣 💯

[patThenevin]

Having seen two multi national companies I have worked at bought to their knees by these Hampton financiers, the one common denominator is the cult like zeal and regard of their own mastery of business skill and acumen. 

Turns out these characters are only good and spending via M&As and siphoning off significant renumeration reward before riding off to their next venture.

We seem to be getting aboard another one of these corporateturds into the club. To complete the set. 

Club is really pushing the loathsome stakes right now.

And to think I used to be a bit sceptical of Buck.

[Ham]

6 minutes ago, patThenevin said:

Having seen two multi national companies I have worked at bought to their knees by these Hampton financiers, the one common denominator is the cult like zeal and regard of their own mastery of business skill and acumen. 

Turns out these characters are only good and spending via M&As and siphoning off significant renumeration reward before riding off to their next venture.

We seem to be getting aboard another one of these corporateturds into the club. To complete the set. 

Club is really pushing the loathsome stakes right now.

And to think I used to be a bit sceptical of Buck.

I'm not sure their records breaking spending fits your analogy here. 

Edited February 5 by Ham

[Max Fowler]

Spotting a pattern? 🤑🤑🤑🤑🤑

 

 

[Ham]

9 minutes ago, Max Fowler said:

Spotting a pattern? 🤑🤑🤑🤑🤑

 

 

And yet they've been on an excellent run of results. 

[patThenevin]

4 hours ago, Ham said:

I'm not sure their records breaking spending fits your analogy here. 

M&A analogy

[chara]

6 minutes ago, Max Fowler said:

Spotting a pattern? 🤑🤑🤑🤑🤑

 

 

The "parallel"  Universe I mentioned elsewhere!👨‍🚀

[Max Fowler]

Lol @JaneB go belle

 

 

[Max Fowler]

 

 

[east lower]

7 minutes ago, Max Fowler said:

Lol @JaneB go belle

 

 

I’ve been quite ‘unimpressed’ with most of what the owners have done to our football club, any chance we could delete them.

[Bison]

[Mark Kelly]

I think we're definitely entering the end game for Pochettino now , it appears every department at the club is desperately briefing against the others and I only see it ending one way. 

[xceleryx]

50 minutes ago, Bison said:

Taken from this article - https://theathletic.com/5252016/2024/02/06/chelsea-pochettino-eghbali-boehly-thiago/

Summary from Reddit.

It's The Athletic's turn to pile in but here's the summary anyway:

How is Pochettino dealing with the situation?

• Was confident when first unveiled back in July but that's now a distant memory.

• There have been signs of tension recently, with a few tetchy exchanges with journalists (e.g. comparison of same record with Potter).

• No sign of progress in the team's style of play, despite having a full pre-season and no European competition. Also has had a core group of players to work with for most of the campaign (e.g. Silva, Disasi, Enzo, Caicedo, Gallagher, Palmer, Sterling, Jackson), despite the injuries.

• Best displays have come against Liverpool, Arsenal and City at home earlier in the season while the worst displays have come at Newcastle, United, Boro, Liverpool and Wolves at home. That indicates regression, not progression.

• Some sources said coaching on tactical work is limited and players are playing off the cuff while others insisted that's not the case.

• Poor in-game management, with subs often coming too late to change the momentum of games. Only 3 come-from-behind wins this season - vs Wimbledon, Burnley and 9-man Spurs.

• Demeanour on the touchline also becoming increasingly subdued.

Is all well with the ownership?

• Sources claimed that Boehly and Eghbali are not on as good terms as they once were but this has been strongly denied by the club. As in most businesses, disagreements between partners are common.

• Boehly and Eghbali are still aligned on the overall strategy - both on the commercial and sporting sides.

• Boehly has taken a step back from the club this season, with Eghbali, Winstanley and Stewart the ones being more involved in managing the club.

• The hierarchy are content with the hires made to run the club. More people will be appointed to work under Winstanley and Stewart in the recruitment department.

• Club bid for Antonio Nusa in January.

• No signings in January not seen as disastrous with plans already being made for the summer.

• Club confident about the PSR position; players will leave and there's no need to sell to buy.

• Tinkering rather than mass change is the strategy moving forward.

• The plan is always to review Pochettino's position at the end of the season.

• Faith in Pochettino still remains and it would take a significant downturn in form to sack another manager mid-season.

• A source claimed that the club's idea from the outset was to build a squad ready to take advantage when Guardiola and Klopp leave City and Liverpool respectively.

• Klopp is already leaving at the end of the season. Guardiola has suggested he could stay on longer at City but the club are confident that he won't.

What has been the players’ reaction?

• On-pitch tension between Pochettino and Silva has been become a recurring theme lately.

• The pair was involved in an animated discussion after Jackson scored the 3rd goal in the 4-1 win at Spurs.

• Similar thing happened last Sunday with Pochettino trying to get Silva's attention after Palmer scored but had to summon Enzo instead to relay the message. Silva either did not hear or simply did not acknowledge Pochettino.

• Silva lacks the influence at the highest level of the club to bring about Pochettino's departure because his contract is up and his physical limitations are being exploited with growing regularity.

• The club do not feel the team is struggling due to the lack of experience as it's littered with senior internationals throughout.

• There is no mutiny among the players but there is a view that the current first team is high on entitlement and low on hunger in some quarters.

• Some are regretting the long-term contracts they have signed and do not see the grand project that was sold to them in the first place.

Can the fans be appeased?

• Was telling that not even the recent of wins (before the Liverpool game) could quell the discontent of match-going supporters.

• Losing to Boro, Liverpool and Wolves brought out all the anger again towards the owners.

• Growing calls for Winstanley and Stewart to be held accountable for the recruitment.

• The sense of disconnect is so deep that even another run of good results would just be papering over the cracks.

• One obvious trigger point in the coming months will be when the club announce the ticket pricing plans for 2024/25. Fans are already unhappy about the recruitment, plunge into mid-table, unpopular pice hikes to various aspects of the matchday experience.

 

Edited February 6 by xceleryx

[Ham]

49 minutes ago, Bison said:

I like how the players look at the problem and conclude that it is something that is happening to them as opposed to something they had a big hand in causing. 

[chrisb]

One thing is for certain, we aren’t getting out of this shit show anytime soon. 

The worse it gets the more “leaks” start appearing and although many are probably just speculation it doesn’t look at all good.

[Bert19]

11 minutes ago, Ham said:

I like how the players look at the problem and conclude that it is something that is happening to them as opposed to something they had a big hand in causing. 

Quite so. 

Still can't help but thinking that this comes down to a standards thing again though.  "This is what we expect from you. If you aren't on board with that, Chelsea will not be the Club for you." 

We clearly had high expectations of our players, coaches and staff at one point - feels like it went away quite a while ago and Clearlake & their people have not brought it back at all.

[Max Fowler]

37 minutes ago, xceleryx said:

Taken from this article - https://theathletic.com/5252016/2024/02/06/chelsea-pochettino-eghbali-boehly-thiago/

Summary from Reddit.

 

It's The Athletic's turn to pile in but here's the summary anyway:

How is Pochettino dealing with the situation?

• Was confident when first unveiled back in July but that's now a distant memory.

• There have been signs of tension recently, with a few tetchy exchanges with journalists (e.g. comparison of same record with Potter).

• No sign of progress in the team's style of play, despite having a full pre-season and no European competition. Also has had a core group of players to work with for most of the campaign (e.g. Silva, Disasi, Enzo, Caicedo, Gallagher, Palmer, Sterling, Jackson), despite the injuries.

• Best displays have come against Liverpool, Arsenal and City at home earlier in the season while the worst displays have come at Newcastle, United, Boro, Liverpool and Wolves at home. That indicates regression, not progression.

• Some sources said coaching on tactical work is limited and players are playing off the cuff while others insisted that's not the case.

• Poor in-game management, with subs often coming too late to change the momentum of games. Only 3 come-from-behind wins this season - vs Wimbledon, Burnley and 9-man Spurs.

• Demeanour on the touchline also becoming increasingly subdued.

Is all well with the ownership?

• Sources claimed that Boehly and Eghbali are not on as good terms as they once were but this has been strongly denied by the club. As in most businesses, disagreements between partners are common.

• Boehly and Eghbali are still aligned on the overall strategy - both on the commercial and sporting sides.

• Boehly has taken a step back from the club this season, with Eghbali, Winstanley and Stewart the ones being more involved in managing the club.

• The hierarchy are content with the hires made to run the club. More people will be appointed to work under Winstanley and Stewart in the recruitment department.

• Club bid for Antonio Nusa in January.

• No signings in January not seen as disastrous with plans already being made for the summer.

• Club confident about the PSR position; players will leave and there's no need to sell to buy.

• Tinkering rather than mass change is the strategy moving forward.

• The plan is always to review Pochettino's position at the end of the season.

• Faith in Pochettino still remains and it would take a significant downturn in form to sack another manager mid-season.

• A source claimed that the club's idea from the outset was to build a squad ready to take advantage when Guardiola and Klopp leave City and Liverpool respectively.

• Klopp is already leaving at the end of the season. Guardiola has suggested he could stay on longer at City but the club are confident that he won't.

What has been the players’ reaction?

• On-pitch tension between Pochettino and Silva has been become a recurring theme lately.

• The pair was involved in an animated discussion after Jackson scored the 3rd goal in the 4-1 win at Spurs.

• Similar thing happened last Sunday with Pochettino trying to get Silva's attention after Palmer scored but had to summon Enzo instead to relay the message. Silva either did not hear or simply did not acknowledge Pochettino.

• Silva lacks the influence at the highest level of the club to bring about Pochettino's departure because his contract is up and his physical limitations are being exploited with growing regularity.

• The club do not feel the team is struggling due to the lack of experience as it's littered with senior internationals throughout.

• There is no mutiny among the players but there is a view that the current first team is high on entitlement and low on hunger in some quarters.

• Some are regretting the long-term contracts they have signed and do not see the grand project that was sold to them in the first place.

Can the fans be appeased?

• Was telling that not even the recent of wins (before the Liverpool game) could quell the discontent of match-going supporters.

• Losing to Boro, Liverpool and Wolves brought out all the anger again towards the owners.

• Growing calls for Winstanley and Stewart to be held accountable for the recruitment.

• The sense of disconnect is so deep that even another run of good results would just be papering over the cracks.

• One obvious trigger point in the coming months will be when the club announce the ticket pricing plans for 2024/25. Fans are already unhappy about the recruitment, plunge into mid-table, unpopular pice hikes to various aspects of the matchday experience.

 

Just posted on other thread mate - here’s it in full if anyone needs: https://archive.ph/upzQp

[thevelourfog]

12 minutes ago, Max Fowler said:

Just posted on other thread mate - here’s it in full if anyone needs: https://archive.ph/upzQp

So ridiculous a piece I can only conclude it genuinely has come from the club. Who cares if Guardiola does leave City next season? Our competition is Brentford and Bournemouth, not City and Liverpool. 

[Max Fowler]

Guardian confirming our fears of big financial difficulties heading into June 30th: https://www.theguardian.com/football/2024/feb/05/todd-boehlys-chelsea-are-a-1bn-mess

Ladies and gentleman - it is not too reactionary to say that the chickens have now come home to roost. We are already facing a points deduction next season from the RA era - we could easily breach FFP on top of that going into next season. In order to avoid doing so we will have to flog the likes of Gallagher by June 30th who will be away at the Euros - clubs will absolutely know we need to sell before then and rinse us for everything we've got. Losing Gallagher and Silva in the summer, two players with limitations, also takes away two of the only remaining players the fans identify with and the disconnect is only likely to grow.

In the long-term - we are Chelsea Football Club and I still believe we can retain our status as one of the biggest clubs around, but who knows how that will be degraded. Over the next year or two, only a remarkable managerial appointment will get us looking upwards again. It's far from impossible to imagining other big managers failing like Poch - good luck to anyone taking over this squad of unhappy and immature players. I am still in camp De Zerbi - maybe he can get the best out of Caicedo and Mudryk, but truly any appointment now could be another disasterclass. We are royally f'ed! The chickens have come home to roost!!!

Edited February 6 by Max Fowler

[Mark Kelly]

1 minute ago, Max Fowler said:

Guardian confirming our fears of big financial difficulties heading into June 30th: https://www.theguardian.com/football/2024/feb/05/todd-boehlys-chelsea-are-a-1bn-mess

Ladies and gentleman - it is not too reactionary to say that the chickens have now come home to roost. We are already facing a points deduction next season from the RA era - we could easily breach FFP on top of that going into next season. In order to avoid doing so we will have to flog the likes of Gallagher by June 30th who will be away at the Euros - clubs will absolutely know we need to sell before then and rinse us for everything we've got. Losing Gallagher and Silva in the summer, two players with limitations, also takes away two of the only remaining players the fans identify with and the disconnect is only likely to grow.

In the long-term - we are Chelsea Football Club and I still believe we can retain our status as one of the biggest clubs around, but who knows how that will be degraded. Over the next year or two, only a remarkable managerial appointment will get us looking upwards again. It's far from impossible to imagining other big managers failing like Poch - good luck to anyone taking over this squad of unhappy and immature players. I am still in camp De Zerbi - maybe he can get the best out of Caicedo and Mudryk, but truly any appointment now could be another disasterclass. We are royally f'ed! The chickens have come home to roost!!!

And the Guardian are normally so pro Chelsea too. 

[MickyDroy]

You have to think that if Villa beats us tomorrow and we go on to lose against Liverpool at Wembley the remaining three months of the season is going to get not only ugly as hell but also unbelievably toxic.

City crushing us at Etihad between those two games goes without saying and there will be absolutely nothing to play for, for several months for the second consecutive season.

 

[Dwmh]

3 hours ago, Bison said:

100% guess, 0% inside knowledge.

Almost certainly correct I'd guess.

 

2 hours ago, xceleryx said:

aken from this article - https://theathletic.com/5252016/2024/02/06/chelsea-pochettino-eghbali-boehly-thiago/

Summary from Reddit.

It's The Athletic's turn to pile in but here's the summary anyway:

ditto - why does everything I ever read from the Athletic sound like a poster on here giving it their best uninformed guess?
Rest of the piece sounds less likely that the point above.

 

39 minutes ago, Max Fowler said:

Guardian confirming our fears of big financial difficulties heading into June

Guardian re-running a story from Swiss Ramble from...  August 2023.

The real FFP issue is not 23/24.  It is the next 5 or 6 years when the money has already been spent.
7 year contracts means that the club got 7 years pocket money in advance and spent the lot.
3 year contracts mean you can only spend 3 years of money in 1 go.

[thevelourfog]

1 hour ago, Max Fowler said:

Guardian confirming our fears of big financial difficulties heading into June 30th: https://www.theguardian.com/football/2024/feb/05/todd-boehlys-chelsea-are-a-1bn-mess

Max, the Guardian are "confirming" nothing. That article says we are being investigated for FFP breaches and links to another Guardian article as evidence ... Both are wrong, UEFA have no investigation and it is they who run FFP. The PL regulations are PSR, and the evidence there is a briefing that they are "investigating" potential incomplete filing from a decade ago, not our current situation.

It's all 2+2 guesswork on their part, some of it perhaps correct by chance. But not "confirmation" of anything.

By the Swiss Ramble's own figures, we essentially have to sell Gallagher and Broja to be "fine". Which we absolutely will. I'd also expect that we'd either get a big dispensation for the losses made when we were sanctioned, or successfully fight any unwillingness to do so.

We are fucked, but I'd be a bit surprised if it was by PSR and as soon as the summer. Lots of bigger issues looming in the years ahead.

[Max Fowler]

28 minutes ago, thevelourfog said:

By the Swiss Ramble's own figures, we essentially have to sell Gallagher and Broja to be "fine". Which we absolutely will. I'd also expect that we'd either get a big dispensation for the losses made when we were sanctioned, or successfully fight any unwillingness to do so.

We are fucked, but I'd be a bit surprised if it was by PSR and as soon as the summer. Lots of bigger issues looming in the years ahead.

We have to sell them by June 30th and make 100 million. Are you that convinced we will do that when there is the Euros in mid June?