Mark Kelly Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 Just now, Bison said: As expected tbh. I expect they'll advertise for an architect on Linked in next . Lets hope we get the bloke who does all the Tesco's Stores , they're cracking. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miguelito07 Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 I was under the impression that the Chelsea supporter trust met with all prospective buyers when the club was for sale and thought these clowns were the best of the lot? Unless they (like us) have been lied to? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miguelito07 Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 3 minutes ago, Mark Kelly said: I expect they'll advertise for an architect on Linked in next . Lets hope we get the bloke who does all the Tesco's Stores , they're cracking. Linked-in is too high brow for them. They'll post the ad on MySpace or FriendsReunited 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bones Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 23 minutes ago, Miguelito07 said: I was under the impression that the Chelsea supporter trust met with all prospective buyers when the club was for sale and thought these clowns were the best of the lot? Unless they (like us) have been lied to? Good question Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROTG Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 2 hours ago, Mark Kelly said: Did he go there on his holidays? Looks a bit cold to me. Opps Lavia. Mind you might a well been in Latvia as his injury has lasted as long or even longer than the Latvian cold weather. 😀 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROTG Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 (edited) 38 minutes ago, Mark Kelly said: I expect they'll advertise for an architect on Linked in next . Lets hope we get the bloke who does all the Tesco's Stores , they're cracking. Someone on LinkedIn is far to professional and is over qualified. I bet Winstanley or Stewart have a friend of a friend who can do the job. I reckon even Yosser Hughes would have got a job with this mob. Edited April 4 by ROTG 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sciatika Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 5 hours ago, kev61 said: Which means what? - some players are finished when they should be at their peak.Some players are at their peak when they should be winding down. Now that is a question for the stat's people! It's rare for players to be finished at 27. It happens, but it's rare. He was quoted as getting back on track at the beginning of this season due to a new diet (less weight) and a change to his training regime. Obviously, YMMV, but I would say his key problem has been his reluctance to choose the easy option. He is not alone in that. I think his desire to get back in the England camp meant he was shooting when a pass would be a better option for the team. I can think of occasions when Jackson, Palmer and Cucrella have done the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chara Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 My original point about Raheem was he isn't and never was or will be a player to build a team around even in part... He does what he does,,,sometimes brilliantly sometimes abysmally often just ordinary in an EPL sense. Part of a system..not integral..IMHO. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Fowler Posted April 4 Author Share Posted April 4 27 minutes ago, chara said: My original point about Raheem was he isn't and never was or will be a player to build a team around even in part... He does what he does,,,sometimes brilliantly sometimes abysmally often just ordinary in an EPL sense. Part of a system..not integral..IMHO. I think he can actually be a leading expert at what he does... but he's not a leader really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROTG Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 (edited) 1 hour ago, chara said: My original point about Raheem was he isn't and never was or will be a player to build a team around even in part... He does what he does,,,sometimes brilliantly sometimes abysmally often just ordinary in an EPL sense. Part of a system..not integral..IMHO. History says he has prity much excelled from the age of 17/18 in the PL. As you say not a player to build a team around, however and outstanding player to have in your team/squad. I will ask the question again. Do you believe when Raheem signed on the dotted line, he was told that within 12 months all the senior who get the club into the CL season after season will be punted in favour of a bunch of early 20 players with Zero experience of top level football and what is required to be a winner? And to go from a CL winning coach who asked for you to be replaced by a nobody coach. Edited April 4 by ROTG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chara Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 3 hours ago, ROTG said: History says he has prity much excelled from the age of 17/18 in the PL. As you say not a player to build a team around, however and outstanding player to have in your team/squad. I will ask the question again. Do you believe when Raheem signed on the dotted line, he was told that within 12 months all the senior who get the club into the CL season after season will be punted in favour of a bunch of early 20 players with Zero experience of top level football and what is required to be a winner? And to go from a CL winning coach who asked for you to be replaced by a nobody coach. Not a question is it? ...more a rhetorical observation (I Think that's what I mean!)..... in all walks of life we make job/life changing decisions that at times do not go in the direction we anticipated when making the decision. Either we make the most of it..and sometimes the change is good... or we seek alternative avenues, Raheem is a Pro not a young tyro and should be making a bit better consistent contribution to the campaign. Just my thoughts..I do appreciate a lot of what he does but not to the exclusion of his less than ...er,...sterling appearances. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ham Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 7 hours ago, Miguelito07 said: I was under the impression that the Chelsea supporter trust met with all prospective buyers when the club was for sale and thought these clowns were the best of the lot? Unless they (like us) have been lied to? The Ricketts proposal was considered to be the best but the grandfather didn't get past the Twitter DEI committee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
east lower Posted April 8 Share Posted April 8 Apparently BlueCo lost over £600 million last year. Good to know that we’re being ran by people who know what they’re doing. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueboy1905 Posted April 8 Share Posted April 8 2 hours ago, east lower said: Apparently BlueCo lost over £600 million last year. Good to know that we’re being ran by people who know what they’re doing. Is this where we start singing "No worries, about a thing, coz everything's gonna be alright" 🎵🎵 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Fowler Posted April 8 Author Share Posted April 8 Chelsea sell Palmer for 80+ million season after next... owners think? JOB DONE. Rinse and repeat the model 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post McCreadie Posted April 8 Popular Post Share Posted April 8 2 hours ago, Max Fowler said: Chelsea sell Palmer for 80+ million season after next... owners think? JOB DONE. Rinse and repeat the model Don’t think so. You don’t turn a £4.25b club into a £10b club by selling a few appreciating players and strategically minimising your chances of success even further than you already have. 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Fowler Posted April 9 Author Share Posted April 9 6 hours ago, McCreadie said: Don’t think so. You don’t turn a £4.25b club into a £10b club by selling a few appreciating players and strategically minimising your chances of success even further than you already have. It's not about becoming a 10billion club. It's about squeezing profit. When Palmer decides he wants to leave they'll think its a win win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROTG Posted April 9 Share Posted April 9 17 minutes ago, Max Fowler said: It's not about becoming a 10billion club. It's about squeezing profit. When Palmer decides he wants to leave they'll think its a win win. creamcakes must be the first investment company not expecting 10-30% growth of the clubs value within 3 years, as was pointed out by smarter people than me on this forum. Selling Palmer for 20m profit more for sustainability, and not directly linked to the value of the football club. The reason the club sold for 4bn was based on the clubs success and standing in world football at the time. Another season out of the spotlight, creamcakes would be lucky to get 1bn. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Fowler Posted April 9 Author Share Posted April 9 22 minutes ago, ROTG said: creamcakes must be the first investment company not expecting 10-30% growth of the clubs value within 3 years, as was pointed out by smarter people than me on this forum. Selling Palmer for 20m profit more for sustainability, and not directly linked to the value of the football club. The reason the club sold for 4bn was based on the clubs success and standing in world football at the time. Another season out of the spotlight, creamcakes would be lucky to get 1bn. Unfortunately the PL grows so consistently and is such a safe investment that they will be able to retain a lot of that value, especially if they actually get round to building a new stadium. Look at Spurs now - one of the most financially well set clubs in the league (not even arguing against a new stadium btw). But are they winning anything? We don't need to get trapped in conspiracies about "the owners don't care about winning". It's all about incentives. Again, if we're playing against clubs who are so hell-bent on winning (like RA) then we will never keep up. Our model could easily deliver us top four, the odd cup here or there, but which Chelsea fan would be happy with that? We can't go back to RA, but we can recognise rotten incentives when they are staring us in the face. The owners think they can outdo the system by playing the long game and investing in youth to become the future stars of tomorrow. This stem from not really understanding how football works and with our "football men" paid to say "yes, boss". 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patThenevin Posted April 9 Share Posted April 9 25 minutes ago, Max Fowler said: Unfortunately the PL grows so consistently and is such a safe investment that they will be able to retain a lot of that value, especially if they actually get round to building a new stadium. Look at Spurs now - one of the most financially well set clubs in the league (not even arguing against a new stadium btw). But are they winning anything? We don't need to get trapped in conspiracies about "the owners don't care about winning". It's all about incentives. Again, if we're playing against clubs who are so hell-bent on winning (like RA) then we will never keep up. Our model could easily deliver us top four, the odd cup here or there, but which Chelsea fan would be happy with that? We can't go back to RA, but we can recognise rotten incentives when they are staring us in the face. The owners think they can outdo the system by playing the long game and investing in youth to become the future stars of tomorrow. This stem from not really understanding how football works and with our "football men" paid to say "yes, boss". Tbf it's the ones who are easily distracted by manager>players>manager>players blame cycle. The type who gets strung along by the 'sunlit uplands' style waffle of the rich. Deference is alive and kicking in England. If you cannot see the model and personnel at the top as a collective of duds, dressed up in financier arrogance you will never see it. But the model for Chelsea is absolutely clear as you've pointed out. Why after all would you knowingly demolish a Champions League winning squad, staff and club identity inside months? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROTG Posted April 9 Share Posted April 9 2 hours ago, Max Fowler said: Unfortunately the PL grows so consistently and is such a safe investment that they will be able to retain a lot of that value, especially if they actually get round to building a new stadium. Look at Spurs now - one of the most financially well set clubs in the league (not even arguing against a new stadium btw). But are they winning anything? Maths don’t add up. another 2b on a stadium would mean the club would need to be sold for 6bn to recoup their money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MickyDroy Posted April 9 Share Posted April 9 24 minutes ago, ROTG said: Maths don’t add up. another 2b on a stadium would mean the club would need to be sold for 6bn to recoup their money. Let's say they spent 2 billion to do a complete rebuild of Stamford Bridge. They still wouldn't own the stadium would they as the freehold would continue to belong to CPO? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCreadie Posted April 9 Share Posted April 9 3 hours ago, Max Fowler said: It's not about becoming a 10billion club. It very much is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Fowler Posted April 9 Author Share Posted April 9 37 minutes ago, ROTG said: Maths don’t add up. another 2b on a stadium would mean the club would need to be sold for 6bn to recoup their money. Building a world-class bigger stadium adds to the value of the club as a whole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Fowler Posted April 9 Author Share Posted April 9 (edited) 10 minutes ago, McCreadie said: It very much is. Okay, but you can be damn sure that Todd and co. As they have already stated in interviews, will be exploring all sorts of ways to commercialise the club beyond success on the pitch. Sounds good on paper - in practice, again - they don’t value winning on the pitch enough because there are plenty of other ways to grow the club even if we become a big 6 club rather than the best in the land. I actually think that they believe that this youth policy will take us to the promised land in 5 to 10 years, but we don’t have that much time to witness our club descend into mediocrity like Arsenal and others have done over recent years, knowing as we do that such a policy will never work, because once you lose the winning mentality across the club, these youngsters will never grow up to understand what it really takes, and fulfil their potential. Only buying experienced players who have won it elsewhere will save us now, but the club will never invest in them because they’re too old and the wages are too high. Hence, we just have to hope for in five years time, Mudryk and Cucurella will develop into the best left wing combination across Europe while we flirt with the Mickey Mouse European leagues and mid-table (no chance of that happening) Edited April 9 by Max Fowler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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